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Well whatever the true purpose of that hump is, we can be fairly certain it being a VLS farm is out of the picture now.
09III/09IV (093/094) Nuclear Submarine Thread
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I would also go and say the 093 design is very dated. If you have a submarine with enough draft in the first place you won't need a hump and it would have been smoother hydrodynamically. You can also get rid of things like being a pure double hull to a single hull or mixed single-double hull hybrid and you won't have to make the 094 look so humpy compared to the other ballistic subs out there. Its even a disappointment they would still go on and make 093/094 based hulls, when they should have already begun with 095/096 hulls that better reflect the state of Chinese nautical engineering in the 2010-2020.
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"Shrugs" alot of Chinese military decisions are so steeped in secrecy and apparent confusion the only thing you can say is "why" most of the time. But since the common response is :" I am sure that the higher ups had think this hard and through" (which seems to be the common retort to anything that cannot be logically explained), I don't think we will be getting any good answers anytime soon.
Perhaps the current 093s are to serve as a test bed for advance tech, but that could be done with a smaller hull. But then again using a proper SSN hull would give the PLAN better data to work with. I dunno, at this point it is extremely wild speculation.
The reactor is very heavy, with lot of radiation shielding, and it has only two pipe connection to the steam turbine/feed pump.
Means it is not that much restricted regarding of its position, but has to be placed carefully to keep the ship stable.
Video analysis on Type-093/A/B Shang SSN by an retired U.S Navy sonar officer running a Submarine/Gaming channel on Youtube. He seems to claim the hump observed is tied to 093's towed sonar array system; He also asserts no VLS capable Type 93 is in service, and will be introduced as 093G. Not sure if his assertions are credible but he may have inside track information on this topic.
Here is another analysis video he posted a while ago on AN/SQS-53C Active Sonar, a variant of which is mounted on both Ticonderoga and Arleigh Burke-class ships. Not sure why NSA hasn't knocked on his door yet.
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Jive is probably(?) only commentator in here internet world who has actually listened 093 swimming around.
One new SSN launched each year is a good speed when compared to most other nations... boys in BR forum aren't gonna be too happy about Jive's 093 video.
One new SSN launched each year is a good speed when compared to most other nations... boys in BR forum aren't gonna be too happy about Jive's 093 video.
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The second video with the SQS-53C doesn't sound like something that should be posted to YouTube.
But I do recommend watching Jive Turkey playing the sub simulator game Cold Waters, and try playing Cold Waters yourself, which is available on Steam, to get a glimpse at modern submarine warfare. The main hero sub is the 688 but there is a mod that lets you play Soviet subs, including the Alfa class.
But I do recommend watching Jive Turkey playing the sub simulator game Cold Waters, and try playing Cold Waters yourself, which is available on Steam, to get a glimpse at modern submarine warfare. The main hero sub is the 688 but there is a mod that lets you play Soviet subs, including the Alfa class.