075 LHD thread

subotai1

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How did they get so much confidence in this design (and 055) before producing small batches as was the case with most of their previous ships?
Once you get enough real world experience, then you can build realistic models of how things perform. Once you have those models, computational design and development can speed up everything. In other words, this is knowledge logarithmically accelerating everything.
 

plawolf

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How did they get so much confidence in this design (and 055) before producing small batches as was the case with most of their previous ships?
Probably a combination of mature modelling software and experienced design team.

The modelling software is proven to be able to reliably simulate how designs would perform in the real world, while an experienced design team knows what features and characteristics a good successful design needs.

When you look at the PLAN’s recent history, they haven’t bothered with small batch test production runs since the first 052C and 054As.

It just so happens that those designs have been extremely successful and been on a long production run. But everything that came after have gone straight into high volume production, starting with the 056s, through the 052Ds and 055s. So it’s no surprise that the 075 has gone straight into mass production, because functionally, an LDH is a lot less complex than a modern destroyer or cruiser.

I think if we do see small volume test production, that would indicate a significant new breakthrough technology is being trialed, like IEPS. Short of that, I really don’t see the PLAN needing to do test runs as they seem highly confident of the shipyards.
 

Janiz

Senior Member
Once you get enough real world experience, then you can build realistic models of how things perform. Once you have those models, computational design and development can speed up everything. In other words, this is knowledge logarithmically accelerating everything.
Anyone had ever seen a working model of a warship? Such complicated and sophisticated construction projects obviously doesn't work the same way as some trival mold form. I've never heard about anything like that and it would be probably way too expensive. There are a few proabable reasons for such developement that I can think of:
1) The most important - there's nothing revolutionary about the design. All the systems are already employed and doing it's job aboard other vessels. If they're using this platform with sytnthesis of systems for which they now pros and cons approach rather than testbed for anything new then one can say it's valid in this case.
2) We don't and won't know if anything goes wrong or not so well in case of this class.
3) Sisterships might differ in details - so far there's simply not enough material so far to simply see the differences and infer on the background of such changes. Thos differences between ships in the same class might be small or pretty big, like some measurements of MC height and stuff like that.
4) Money is not a problem. Also important in this case. They might have went with 'we'll fix whatever comes up on the wrong side along the way' type of approach. Also viable and and shouldn't take slipways away from the shipyard(s).

If anyone thinks that all the problems could be fixed on the 'drawing board' he's clearly delusional. Just look at the navy which has the biggest experience in doing all sorts of warships in recent century and yet they can go wrong with a particular warship or even entire class. The only difference with PLAN is that we never hear about the problems in public, so we can only assume in most cases.
 

zgx09t

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Anyone had ever seen a working model of a warship? Such complicated and sophisticated construction projects obviously doesn't work the same way as some trival mold form. I've never heard about anything like that and it would be probably way too expensive. There are a few proabable reasons for such developement that I can think of:
1) The most important - there's nothing revolutionary about the design. All the systems are already employed and doing it's job aboard other vessels. If they're using this platform with sytnthesis of systems for which they now pros and cons approach rather than testbed for anything new then one can say it's valid in this case.
2) We don't and won't know if anything goes wrong or not so well in case of this class.
3) Sisterships might differ in details - so far there's simply not enough material so far to simply see the differences and infer on the background of such changes. Thos differences between ships in the same class might be small or pretty big, like some measurements of MC height and stuff like that.
4) Money is not a problem. Also important in this case. They might have went with 'we'll fix whatever comes up on the wrong side along the way' type of approach. Also viable and and shouldn't take slipways away from the shipyard(s).

If anyone thinks that all the problems could be fixed on the 'drawing board' he's clearly delusional. Just look at the navy which has the biggest experience in doing all sorts of warships in recent century and yet they can go wrong with a particular warship or even entire class. The only difference with PLAN is that we never hear about the problems in public, so we can only assume in most cases.

Did someone just whistle in the dark?
 

Tam

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I would wonder where the 2nd Type 075 go for her advanced trials. Will she go south to Hainan or head north to Qingdao?
 
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