075 LHD thread

[asif iqbal]

cant wait to see that pitch black deck with white lines !

it will actually look cool with the PLAN light grey naval camo

 

[Iron Man]

I think its clear

China is now here to challenge Western dominance

and it looks like they want to do it head on

with 8 x LPD and 3 x LHD plus 2 x STOBAR and 1 x CATOBAR this is by far the most capable fleet second to USN

now the fact they are building 3 x LHD simultaneously and like they built 4 x Type 055 at breakneck speed this shows they are sending a clear message

They didn't have to build that fast and they dont have to even sometimes do double launches but they do it

basically China is no a longer a economic power but now a fully blown naval power

LHD construction has really changed things

I would like to see 3 x Type 075 @30,000 tons and 3 x Type 075A @40,000 tons

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. China is still a few decades away from challenging the US head on in waters outside of the Western Pacific. I personally think they are not yet even ready to realistically challenge the US in the Western Pacific. Maybe in 10 years or so when the new ships we see now are commissioned with some years of operational experience behind them.

 

[williamhou]

I think its clear

China is now here to challenge Western dominance

and it looks like they want to do it head on

with 8 x LPD and 3 x LHD plus 2 x STOBAR and 1 x CATOBAR this is by far the most capable fleet second to USN

now the fact they are building 3 x LHD simultaneously and like they built 4 x Type 055 at breakneck speed this shows they are sending a clear message

They didn't have to build that fast and they dont have to even sometimes do double launches but they do it

basically China is no a longer a economic power but now a fully blown naval power

LHD construction has really changed things

I would like to see 3 x Type 075 @30,000 tons and 3 x Type 075A @40,000 tons

Those Soviet style STOBAR carriers with limited numbers of J-15 and no fixed wing AWACS onboard are nowhere near as capable as USN super-carriers. Not even comparable to the likes of HMS Queen Elizabeth.

That said the 075 LHD is looking pretty good so far.

 

[Yellow Submarine]

I think its clear

China is now here to challenge Western dominance

and it looks like they want to do it head on

with 8 x LPD and 3 x LHD plus 2 x STOBAR and 1 x CATOBAR this is by far the most capable fleet second to USN

now the fact they are building 3 x LHD simultaneously and like they built 4 x Type 055 at breakneck speed this shows they are sending a clear message

They didn't have to build that fast and they dont have to even sometimes do double launches but they do it

basically China is no a longer a economic power but now a fully blown naval power

LHD construction has really changed things

I would like to see 3 x Type 075 @30,000 tons and 3 x Type 075A @40,000 tons

That CATOBAR will be the first of many and I seriously doubt the PLAN will stop with 8 LPD, given China's ambitions and the expansion of the PLAMC. I suspect we will see a Type 071A class in the not-so-distant future. China is building a blue water navy capable of challenging the USN on the high seas, although they still have some catching up to do, especially in areas like aircraft carriers, naval aviation and submarine technology.

 

[weig2000]

I'll repeat my prediction: 12 LPD + 6 LHD by 2025.

 

[yuxiaochen]

Wait wait wait... so they are building the second one right next to the first one? well dang....

One more...

(2048 x 1536)

 

[asif iqbal]

Get with times

That is not news

 

[2=GT]

 

[Pika]

I think its clear

China is now here to challenge Western dominance

and it looks like they want to do it head on

with 8 x LPD and 3 x LHD plus 2 x STOBAR and 1 x CATOBAR this is by far the most capable fleet second to USN

now the fact they are building 3 x LHD simultaneously and like they built 4 x Type 055 at breakneck speed this shows they are sending a clear message

They didn't have to build that fast and they dont have to even sometimes do double launches but they do it

basically China is no a longer a economic power but now a fully blown naval power

LHD construction has really changed things

I would like to see 3 x Type 075 @30,000 tons and 3 x Type 075A @40,000 tons

First, I don't think that's the case. China is an export an economy. As such, trade routes needs to be secure. And you need a blue Navy to do that. Japan, South Korea, Australia, Saudi Arabia, and many EU countries are all export economies but unlike China, they have a US Navy securing their trades routes.
China's military build-up boils down to that fact.

US and China don't share the same interest so China has to build up their Navy just in case. The first step is dominating it's regional waters (the first two island chains) and then expanding to Indian Ocean afterwards which connects them to Med, Middle East, and Africa. Their ability to expand to the Pacific will be a side benefit from having a Blue Navy. (
And an effective Blue Navy needs a robust SSN and SSBN presence; those are more important than carriers. But before the Type-095 comes online in numbers, a Type 075 will be very important in providing ASW for their carries and other high value destroyers.

Eventually the Pacific will be important as new trade routes open up in the Arctic. This is where their alliance with Russia is also very important.


Second, as of now, their economy is slowing. That needs to be address or their build up will slow down.

 

[manqiangrexue]

First, I don't think that's the case. China is an export an economy. As such, trade routes needs to be secure. And you need a blue Navy to do that. Japan, South Korea, Australia, Saudi Arabia, and many EU countries are all export economies but unlike China, they have a US Navy securing their trades routes.
China's military build-up boils down to that fact.

US and China don't share the same interest so China has to build up their Navy just in case. The first step is dominating it's regional waters (the first two island chains) and then expanding to Indian Ocean afterwards which connects them to Med, Middle East, and Africa. Their ability to expand to the Pacific will be a side benefit from having a Blue Navy. (
And an effective Blue Navy needs a robust SSN and SSBN presence; those are more important than carriers. But before the Type-095 comes online in numbers, a Type 075 will be very important in providing ASW for their carries and other high value destroyers.

Eventually the Pacific will be important as new trade routes open up in the Arctic. This is where their alliance with Russia is also very important.

I don't think you guys disagree with each other. You're both saying that China will build a massive navy to defend its interests due to distrust of/antagonism from the USN.

Second, as of now, their economy is slowing. That needs to be address or their build up will slow down.

I don't think so. First of all, the build-up is planned with much of the funds sunk in years ahead of the actual build-up. Secondly, China's military spending is still a very low percentage of GDP, less than 2%, so it can actually still grow robustly for a while even if the economy stagnates, which is far from the case. Thirdly, even though there is a slowdown in the percentage of growth in the Chinese GDP, there is no slowdown in absolute value growth; if anything, absolute value is being added much much faster now at 6-6.5% than it was when China was growing at 13 or 9%. So every year, there is more absolute value that can be spent on a military build-up with current or even slower GDP growth. Therefore, I see no military slowdown in sight at all.