055 Large Destroyer Thread II

[00CuriousObserver]

..surely the 14th? No way 15th would be in such a state already.

Well, I'm genuinely not sure. I'm just under the impression for some reason that the 14th had been launched, which could be wrong.

Also, Yankee made a very offhand remark today, saying "the 15th 055 has yet to-", which again hints that there are more than 14 055s.

 

[Wrought]

Manually operated surface ships with large crews are an endangered species. Would not be surprised if China (like many others) is working on something that is largely autonomous and fulfills the same mission needs as the 055. So ending production early makes a lot of sense.

Lmao no. Unmanned surface combatants are basically infants who can't even stand up right now. Both their hardware and software still has very far to go before they replace anything bigger than a missile boat or minesweeper, or carry out any missions more complex than "go in that general direction and shoot whatever you see."

Crew reductions from automation is a much more reasonable near-term prospect, but that has tradeoffs of its own w.r.t. damage control.

 

[KODAMA]

Some claim the ship in dry dock is the 14th ship of the Type 055, but it has been launched since then. Take a look at the following pictures.

 

[JohnnyD]

AS a latino I hope China built over 100 type 55 can keep building more hyper Missle and subs look what happen when you have no navy or army or it weak like venezuela

 

[davidau]

AS a latino I hope China built over 100 type 55 can keep building more hyper Missle and subs look what happen when you have no navy or army or it weak like venezuela

why put all the eggs inone basket??

 

[daifo]

AS a latino I hope China built over 100 type 55 can keep building more hyper Missle and subs look what happen when you have no navy or army or it weak like venezuela

I understand your sentiments but probably most of us here want something "newer" probably after the 32th-48th ship

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

The East Sea Fleet has finally received their first 055 DDG (albeit not yet with a pennant number). Potsed by @欧阳振我86468 on Weibo.

 

[antiterror13]

The East Sea Fleet has finally received their first 055 DDG (albeit not yet with a pennant number). Potsed by @欧阳振我86468 on Weibo.

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Nice, logically 109 ?

 

[votran]

ESSM is already in service for a long time, so it's going to be difficult.

i still can't understand why they able to have a good stuff like ESSM block 2

quad-pack inside mk41 vls, 70km range just like HQ-16C and carry active-radar seeker can intercept super sonic ASM

the damn jap mogami class frigate only need 16 mk41 vls to overpower most of 054A SAM ability until all 054A/B can be armed with hq16EF 160km range

but still a damn frigate can carry x64 70km range sam with only 16 VLS still a huge anti-air threat .

 

[Gloire_bb]

Range figure means different things in different missiles. Sometimes range means that system is still absolutely deadly and lethal to the outer edge of its threat envelope. It's absolutely the case for HQ-16C.
Sometimes, system is thoroughly optimized for range, that ironically it can extend reach literally at expense of utility: for example, the longer and slower your rocket somehow glides, the more cooperative target can manage to approach. This gives you a lot of Dmax.
Some of worse offenders in this particular case are CAMM/CAMM-ER - rather light missiles with slender aerodynamics, which go for all possible crimes to get range.

Now to our specimen.
Both ESSM and HQ-16(Shtil, Buk) are originally close-medium range systems. Both are quite large for their original ranges, but Buk is huge(SM-2 class).
ESSM mk.2 was a relatively more recent, thorough and range-optimized upgrade, while HQ-16C was still direct ascent all the way to the outer edge(even from VLS).
When HQ-16F did trajectory optimization(and longer batteries) - magic happened, range doubled.

Note that Russian Buk-m3 (or active Shtil) still flies same 70 give or take, because instead they now include 9A83s in Buk batteries for 150km capability(Soviet Union produced so far too many S-300Vs for Russia anyway).