055 Large Destroyer Thread II

antiterror13

Brigadier
I'm pretty sure the proposal for CG(X) said that a ship with a displacement between 21000-26000t and heavy radar usage will breakeven with nuclear assuming oil costs of 80-260 USD per barrel.

do you mean breakeven in construction or in operating cost ?

breakeven is one thing, but considering nuclear propulsion don't need fuel and can stay almost indefinitely at sea is a big plus for strategic point of view
 

BoraTas

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Like a Burke with 96 VLS. Always found it odd that the PLAN has no intermediate destroyer between the 052D and 055.
Effectively PLAN is already a 5 tier navy, considering the 054A production has been continuing until recently. They do not need another layer between their existing surface combatants. Maybe later they would introduce an even higher layer. I see even that speculative
 

Tomboy

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do you mean breakeven in construction or in operating cost ?

breakeven is one thing, but considering nuclear propulsion don't need fuel and can stay almost indefinitely at sea is a big plus for strategic point of view
AFAIK it's overall cost including operation, but even nuclear ships need to come home to port, or you'll end up like the Ural.
Effectively PLAN is already a 5 tier navy, considering the 054A production has been continuing until recently. They do not need another layer between their existing surface combatants. Maybe later they would introduce an even higher layer. I see even that speculative
I mean there is only the 055, 052, 054 and 056, Cute Orca seems to find the need for a theatre air defense cruiser. 052Ds are probably going to be replaced by a ~10kt general purpose destroyer and 054s are getting replaced by some kind of new large frigate, 056s are just good enough and I don't think there is any plans to replace them yet. 055 is tricky, some people think it's successor might be a large BMD cruiser and some others think it'll be a separate role between a air defense cruiser and large general purpose destroyer.
 

Temstar

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Like a Burke with 96 VLS. Always found it odd that the PLAN has no intermediate destroyer between the 052D and 055.
I've been hearing rumours of a destroyer like that in the works on weibo with PLA watching sources, 052D successor and smaller than a 055, clean sheet design.
It gets referred to as “九千岁”, both as a hint at displacement as well as signally the fact that it's one rung lower than 055.
 

Tomboy

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show me the "money" (rumours)
Look at my posts in next gen frigate, also new construction going on at Hudong Zhonghua. Preliminary measure is that it's wider than any of the 054 series and matches some claims from credible people but we'll have to wait until early mid next year to confirm.
 
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