052C/052D Class Destroyers
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I notice that the production of the first TB-37U MFTA is due by June 2021.
But suppose the Chinese Navy starts deploying their own version before this?
I believe the PLAN and other PLA services would keep their new missiles/weapons very close to the chest. What you see now has been/would be superseded by a later version.
Been around with the Type 311 sonar which is the improved towed array plus VDS. Since this was already introduced sometime ago, like around the second batch of 054A, the introduction of the 052D and the 056A, this itself should already have some batch improvements since its introduction.
Not sure what the square holes are above the round holes, which is for the mooring ropes.
The VDS is the door next to those two holes and the TAS is the hole next to the VDS door. The square hole to the the most left near the other hole is for a towed decoy.
That should not be 171 which is a 052C. Its a 052D with the HQ-10 and the center aligned hanger. The rounded capped ESMs make this a second batch 052D, so this is likely to be 131 Taiyuan. The Sovremenny leading the formation gives the group away as being from the Third Destroyer Division, and its either 138 or 139 because of the radar above the hanger, which makes it a 956EM, modified variant. The 054A shown is of the final batch based on the shape of its rear SATCOM, which I believe the Third Destroyer Division has one which should be 601.
You probably mistyped 171 instead of 131. Should be part of the same series of pictures you previously posted.
Most likely ASROC for the 052D is a copy of the Russian 91RE2 missile rather than the YU-8. YU-8 is a bit small for the U-VLS, it will be like a kid fitting his dad's pants. I mean you can fit it, but it won't be using the U-VLS full potential. This is a member of the KLUB family.
That would be the shortest one on the far left. The longer one next to it is for submarine launch. Next to that is the antiship missile, which is where the YJ-18 is derived, and next to that is the cruise missile. China replicating the entire Klub line on its own.
The difference is that instead of using the Russian torpedo, they would be using the new light torpedo from the YU-11 instead. This torpedo probably about three meters length. I should expect the range to be greater than the YU-8 because of the size as the YU-8 is said to be around 30km, while the Russian number is about 50km. A lighter Chinese torpedo can extend the range a bit. The missile will also be supersonic, while the YU-8 is subsonic, so the missile will reach point A to B faster, which leaves the opposing submarine less time to escape. The shorter Klubs are over 6 meters in length, so these will fit the 7 meter U-VLS. So the ASROC will displace HHQ-9s instead of YJ-18.
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Did you just make a post about an open door? A freakin' open door?! This is almost as ridiculous as making a post about a puddle.
Seriously, what in the world are you doing?!
Stop clogging this thread and others with your utterly useless trivia and stupid observations that are a complete waste of time and precious screen real estate.
Seriously, why are you here? To parade your below-average double-digit IQ and waste screen space?
Be considerate of the wider community and JUST STOP!
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Um... please don't insult other members by suggesting that they're 'low IQ'Did you just make a post about an open door? A freakin' open door?! This is almost as ridiculous as making a post about a puddle.
Seriously, what in the world are you doing?!
Stop clogging this thread and others with your utterly useless trivia and stupid observations that are a complete waste of time and precious screen real estate.
Seriously, why are you here? To parade your below-average double-digit IQ and waste screen space?
Be considerate of the wider community and JUST STOP!
It's just a photo dude, he posted lots of ship photos and I appreciate it, you should too( I appreciate your photos also). Don't throw a tantrum over it, this is the internet.
If you don't like the descriptions associated, just ignore it and look at the photos only.
This is completely unacceptable behavior. I reported you to the moderators.Did you just make a post about an open door? A freakin' open door?! This is almost as ridiculous as making a post about a puddle.
Seriously, what in the world are you doing?!
Stop clogging this thread and others with your utterly useless trivia and stupid observations that are a complete waste of time and precious screen real estate.
Seriously, why are you here? To parade your below-average double-digit IQ and waste screen space?
Be considerate of the wider community and JUST STOP!
Did you just make a post about an open door? A freakin' open door?! This is almost as ridiculous as making a post about a puddle.
Seriously, what in the world are you doing?!
Stop clogging this thread and others with your utterly useless trivia and stupid observations that are a complete waste of time and precious screen real estate.
Seriously, why are you here? To parade your below-average double-digit IQ and waste screen space?
Be considerate of the wider community and JUST STOP!
I think his post #4288 was made because it was part of the same set as what he posted immediately prior in post #4287, and for each of those pictures he has a description. The accuracy of those descriptions leaves something to be desired, but I think the effort is there to provide a commentary.
I don't think his post of his pictures were unreasonable, and while I agree with you that there are many members here whose posts are frankly nonsensical and of poor quality and lowers the quality of the forum, I don't think his post is unreasonable.
More importantly, we still expect a minimum standard of etiquette here regardless of how much you believe someone may be contributing poorly to the forum, and making personal attacks on someone and asking them to stop posting is beyond the scope of what is acceptable here.
Given the quality of your contributions and your receptiveness to past statements, this will be verbal warning this time, but in future refrain from making remarks as to the quality of other people's posts. If you feel particularly that the relevance of someone's post is off topic or clogging up the forum, you can message a moderator in future.