asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
The Type 052D is sticking out like a swore thumb that camo needs to be changed
052C/052D Class Destroyers
- Thread starter Jeff Head
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Brumby
Major
What is the Chinese character that is being used to describe the variant? Is it "高 or 長" or something else?
The original label for this picture says an Arleigh Burke was exercising with the USS Shiloh. Lol.
Compared to some other Ticos, the Shiloh has not updated her CEC, as she still only has USG-2 and not USG-3 --- see up in the tall pole mast underneath her TACAN, and she has not her gun fire control radar, as she has SPQ-A on a round dome, not SPQ-9B which is square --- see where the US flag is. However, notably and lately, ships in the US 7th Fleet has been getting a new ESM unit --- see straight down from where the funnels are --- other fleets don't have. It seems to be a new combat directional finder.
lcloo
Captain
Brumby
Major
Thanks.
Strictly to me the meaning of "改" is modify. " and "改好" would mean improvement. I do agree that one can make a reasonable argument that "改" can mean improvement (for the better) but it can also mean improvement (due to deficiency).
Why are they using that color? Don't they know about it?
by78
General
Perhaps this is not widely known to people in Pakistan, but modern ships don't use visual camouflage due to the proliferation of radars.
The Shiloh is under partial overcast, the 052D is in direct sunlight. The 052D looks conspicuous in the photo because the camera’s exposure is dominated by the low illuminance of the Shiloh, as a result the much more brightly illuminated 052D is overexposed. Even if the 052D is painted in exactly the same color and tone as the Shiloh she would still look conspicuous by comparison in this situation because she is under direct sunlight and the Shiloh is not.
It is futile to pretend you know better than the people of Pakistan. Modern war ships do in fact universally use visual camouflage because it cost nothing and there still can be circumstances where visual contact should be endeavored to be avoided for as long as possible.
by78
General
Oh no, quite the contrary, I very much appreciate the great collective wisdom of the Pakistani people, a wisdom that has apparently been distilled and then manifested in the person of @asif iqbal, which must be why he's so ever magnanimous with his views and comments.