052/052B Class Destroyers
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Re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer
Actually, the so called blind spot that panasian is referring to is literally on the frontal few degrees of the bow of the ship, and the fact that both the ship and any potential target will be moving, and the fact that the ship can orient to face any incoming targets, the blind spot really is quite negligible.
I think what he raised was an interesting point, but a bit of logic I think we can say with some peace of mind that any obstruction of the type 730s frontal firing arc is practically insignificant. If the ship could not maneuver, and if cruise missiles tended to come in from the frontal aspect then his concerns might be a little more valid.
In this case, they clearly thought the slight loss in frontal firing arc was worthless enough that any structural redesign of the ciws platform was insignificant.
Actually, the so called blind spot that panasian is referring to is literally on the frontal few degrees of the bow of the ship, and the fact that both the ship and any potential target will be moving, and the fact that the ship can orient to face any incoming targets, the blind spot really is quite negligible.
I think what he raised was an interesting point, but a bit of logic I think we can say with some peace of mind that any obstruction of the type 730s frontal firing arc is practically insignificant. If the ship could not maneuver, and if cruise missiles tended to come in from the frontal aspect then his concerns might be a little more valid.
In this case, they clearly thought the slight loss in frontal firing arc was worthless enough that any structural redesign of the ciws platform was insignificant.
Re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer
Main gun is facing forward and those may have dual purpose capabilities. Or if really need be just prioritize frontal targets to be taken out by VLS at longer ranges.
By previous logic a 054A would be even worse off as she would not have a frontal facing CIWS at all!
Main gun is facing forward and those may have dual purpose capabilities. Or if really need be just prioritize frontal targets to be taken out by VLS at longer ranges.
By previous logic a 054A would be even worse off as she would not have a frontal facing CIWS at all!
TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
Re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer
Its a traditional naval weakness, look at navy ships from any era and the same until you hit trireems of classical Greek and Roman periods then the ram was the main weapon of battle. If you think about it there is only one ship class that had equal fire power across all her sides. The American Union Monitor class ironclad of the 1860s. That was because her main guns were turreted in here singular Turret that pulled double duty as her deck house.
Its a traditional naval weakness, look at navy ships from any era and the same until you hit trireems of classical Greek and Roman periods then the ram was the main weapon of battle. If you think about it there is only one ship class that had equal fire power across all her sides. The American Union Monitor class ironclad of the 1860s. That was because her main guns were turreted in here singular Turret that pulled double duty as her deck house.
joshuatree
Captain
Re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer
I don't think the 056 is a meaningful comparison. While we have plenty of fans here hoping the 056 could be more (I admit I was one of them), the 056 program was clearly designed to be an economical, general purpose, patrol vessel. So using proven components made sense. And given the supposed number to be produced, churning them out fast was a requirement. None of the major mods like the smokestack or bow modification happened post-commissioning.
I don't think the 056 is a meaningful comparison. While we have plenty of fans here hoping the 056 could be more (I admit I was one of them), the 056 program was clearly designed to be an economical, general purpose, patrol vessel. So using proven components made sense. And given the supposed number to be produced, churning them out fast was a requirement. None of the major mods like the smokestack or bow modification happened post-commissioning.
Jura The idiot
General
Re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer
That's assuming a missile can turn sharply enough to exploit that opening.
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That's assuming a missile can turn sharply enough to exploit that opening.