00X/004 future nuclear CATOBAR carrier thread

[lcloo]

Because you don’t want to risk sensitive information getting out that’s why militaries don’t build stuff near urban areas or keep it there if urban areas are built near by and if it is a sub urban district there is still risk

the exterior is extremely important information, it tells you possible radar capabilities, possible countermeasures on the ship and operational aspects. All of that is imporant information. And if you’re testing something important you usually don’t keep it at the same area to test it when buildings pop up around it.

It was an isolated area with unpaved muddy road when the site was built, and there were not many buildings in the area save a few farm lands then.

If you want to blame someone, that shoud be the Wuhan city mayor, not Chinese military, and lands are under the city's admininstration, and they are the ones approving city development, not PLA.

Photo in 2010

 

[Aniah]

Because you don’t want to risk sensitive information getting out that’s why militaries don’t build stuff near urban areas or keep it there if urban areas are built near by and if it is a sub urban district there is still risk

They do that here in the US all the time. Security ain't as bad as you think.

the exterior is extremely important information, it tells you possible radar capabilities, possible countermeasures on the ship and operational aspects. All of that is imporant information. And if you’re testing something important you usually don’t keep it at the same area to test it when buildings pop up around it.

All of which will be known the moment it touches water, maybe even months before. You're trying to do too much to stop the inevitable.

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

Because you don’t want to risk sensitive information getting out that’s why militaries don’t build stuff near urban areas or keep it there if urban areas are built near by and if it is a sub urban district there is still risk

Which part of the "the 701st Institute wasn't located anywhere near Wuhan's urban limits when the site was first built many decades ago" phrase did you not understand?

the exterior is extremely important information, it tells you possible radar capabilities, possible countermeasures on the ship and operational aspects. All of that is imporant information. And if you’re testing something important you usually don’t keep it at the same area to test it when buildings pop up around it.

If that's the case, then why are you still here and not a 中科院院士?

 

[vincent]

Because you don’t want to risk sensitive information getting out that’s why militaries don’t build stuff near urban areas or keep it there if urban areas are built near by and if it is a sub urban district there is still risk

the exterior is extremely important information, it tells you possible radar capabilities, possible countermeasures on the ship and operational aspects. All of that is imporant information. And if you’re testing something important you usually don’t keep it at the same area to test it when buildings pop up around it.

I drove by the Aegis test site near Philly quite a few times, did I learned anything more than what I can learn online? No.

 

[taxiya]

Can anyone tell me whether the after portion of the bridge is a traditional air intake or not ?

Nobody can tell. That portion does look like and probably is the exhaust stack portion from before the reconstruction. However the new location at the very end of the ship excludes the possibility of it being exhaust stack of oil fired boiler or air intake or GT of any meaningful sized engine for propulsion. It could be exhaust for diesel auxiliary plant or it could be reshaped at the end for purpose unrelated to engine, afterall it is a mockup.

 

[PLAwatcher12]

1. It doesn’t matter if it was rural in the past, so pointing out it was rural in the past doesn’t mean it’s perfectly fine today like it was in 2010.

2. They might but countries usually don’t keep their most important stuff near sub urban areas and this isn’t about the US.

3. Yes it will be known before or during launch but the more time you have to analyze imporant features the less powerful it becomes when launched.

4. Same as number 1, past doesn’t mean it’s ok like it was when built.

5. the issue isn’t civilians knowing what it is and becoming experts but rather the flow of information by photos civilians could take and the US or any foreign country might see it and be able to analyze it more than they could just from satellites.

6. Same as the rest but being a civilian and driving past a test site for an system already used for decades isn’t the same as taking pictures of it an actual people equipped to handle intelligence matters seeing it.

We will need to agree to disagree I guess

 

[dingyibvs]

I'm amazed you guys are still responding to this guy.

 

[TheWanderWit]

1. It doesn’t matter if it was rural in the past, so pointing out it was rural in the past doesn’t mean it’s perfectly fine today like it was in 2010.

2. They might but countries usually don’t keep their most important stuff near sub urban areas and this isn’t about the US.

3. Yes it will be known before or during launch but the more time you have to analyze imporant features the less powerful it becomes when launched.

4. Same as number 1, past doesn’t mean it’s ok like it was when built.

5. the issue isn’t civilians knowing what it is and becoming experts but rather the flow of information by photos civilians could take and the US or any foreign country might see it and be able to analyze it more than they could just from satellites.

6. Same as the rest but being a civilian and driving past a test site for an system already used for decades isn’t the same as taking pictures of it an actual people equipped to handle intelligence matters seeing it.

We will need to agree to disagree I guess

What in the world are you still on about? It's just a basic mockup of a carrier that uses a building as the foundation. There's fundamentally nothing to extrapolate from this mock up in detail. The only thing Wuhan carrier mockups really show is just the island structure and aircraft mockups, which we've seen all over before, and that's it. You're making it seem like just from looking at this building, you're somehow going to be able to deduce its propulsion, internal design layout, what radars it'll use, sensors/electronics it'll use, where the CIC is, weak points, etc.

Relax, you're just quibbling over nothing. If this was such a concern to China who has had this mockup built up and down for well over a decade, they would've moved it, but it isn't. I think China knows a lot more than some random user on SDF.

 

[PLAwatcher12]

What in the world are you still on about? It's just a basic mockup of a carrier that uses a building as the foundation. There's fundamentally nothing to extrapolate from this mock up in detail. The only thing Wuhan carrier mockups really show is just the island structure and aircraft mockups, which we've seen all over before, and that's it. You're making it seem like just from looking at this building, you're somehow going to be able to deduce its propulsion, internal design layout, what radars it'll use, sensors/electronics it'll use, where the CIC is, weak points, etc.

Relax, you're just quibbling over nothing. If this was such a concern to China who has had this mockup built up and down for well over a decade, they would've moved it, but it isn't. I think China knows a lot more than some random user on SDF.

It’s not a basic mockup it’s used to test things, that’s why there is mockups, and I never said you can deduce everything from a mockup I said a mockup can show some important stuff off, what is true. And no it’s called a calculated risk and I did say before Im sure China knows more but this is what I think and I gave me reasons.

 

[Blitzo]

1. It doesn’t matter if it was rural in the past, so pointing out it was rural in the past doesn’t mean it’s perfectly fine today like it was in 2010.

2. They might but countries usually don’t keep their most important stuff near sub urban areas and this isn’t about the US.

3. Yes it will be known before or during launch but the more time you have to analyze imporant features the less powerful it becomes when launched.

4. Same as number 1, past doesn’t mean it’s ok like it was when built.

5. the issue isn’t civilians knowing what it is and becoming experts but rather the flow of information by photos civilians could take and the US or any foreign country might see it and be able to analyze it more than they could just from satellites.

6. Same as the rest but being a civilian and driving past a test site for an system already used for decades isn’t the same as taking pictures of it an actual people equipped to handle intelligence matters seeing it.

We will need to agree to disagree I guess

You're just wasting everyone's time now.

Everyone has given you logical answers with a good review of the history as well, and yet you are continuing to write your opinions as if they are legitimate.

Six month ban. Permanent on repeat offense.