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Michaelsinodef said:
I'm secretly hoping that some of the highest priority research and military invention in China is missile defense, maybe something like potentially using even missiles like DF-17 and the likes against nukes through say AI, machine learning etc.

And ofc more in the works that I don't know of.
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I am not sure how much China cooperating with Russia on missile defense. but they are now integrating S-350 to protect cities it has that high G turns that can deal with buildings for things missed by S-500 at high altitude. This HIMAR is high altitude rocket. some of the intercepts based on video they presented were above 18km at much closer range. SAM missile has to accelerate extreme fast to gain altitude.

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ACuriousPLAFan said:
Majority of the US nuclear arsenal are based from ballistic missile submarines and strategic bombers, not land-based missile silos.

Besides, ballistic missiles travel at speeds between Mach 15-20 or more, which is basically the fastest man-made object can reasonably travel with current technology. They won't need hours to reach China from CONUS - one hour is more than enough.

Then there's the Ohio and Columbia-class ballistic missile submarines, which can sail pretty much anywhere around the world's oceans. If those subs launch their SLBMs from the Arctic Ocean, Indian Ocean and/or the WestPac, China will have even less time to respond.

Plus there's the B-52, B-1, B-2, B-21 strategic bombers, which can appear pretty much from anywhere and at anytime. How are you going to know if those bombers carry bombs and/or missiles that have conventional or nuclear warheads?


Lol no. The US has a multitude of space, land, air and sea-based early warning systems with pretty much full and constant coverage of the entire globe. Those systems (especially space-based ones) can detect ballistic missile launches as soon as the missiles leave the ground. How are you going to hide that?

Then, how many countries in the world has ballistic missiles? And out of those countries, how many of them have FOBS capabilities? There is no way to hide the identity of the launcher once the details of said missile has been established.

FOBS can only be used to increase unpredictability and reduce enemy's response readiness, not to disguise the launcher's identity and location.
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This is why geographically distributed assets are important. Destruction of 1 warns the rest as a last ditch defense and prevents everything from getting taken out at once. There's a reason why 300 silos are being built, the first intercept happened in Tibet and data sharing is done with Russia.
Bellum_Romanum said:
A very refreshing speech and acknowledgement of China's ancient history, innovations, inventions that has helped shaped our world from the current British Foreign Secretary. It's nice to contrast the reporting from the barrage of negative news regarding the Sino-West relationship.

Whilst his speech and reporting on the western media has focused too much and predictably so on the need to make the usual anti-China spiel this bit of his speech is just as important and in my opinion more so since it acknowledges the current political body/entity that's responsible for revitalizing China to what it is today: A powerful country.


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Can't find this part of his speech on YouTube.
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If it's not reported then it didn't happen for the western public and thus he is not just a warmonger but a hypocritical and cowardly one. If this keeps up they'll join the Xiongnu, if they're lucky they'll merely join the Mongols.
 
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if it some random guard. than it further show the clergy is not much popular and people blame it for backwardness.
there is some half Million or more Iranian in UAE and Iran is one of the largest exporter of international students relative to population. so dissatisfaction with system is there. These are in addition to who already settled in foreign countries.
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According to official statistics, more than 95,000 Iranians are studying in various countries, with the largest number studying in America, Germany, Italy, Turkey, Canada, Malaysia, England, Russia, Australia, Hungary, Cyprus, and France, respectively.
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pmc said:
I am not sure how much China cooperating with Russia on missile defense. but they are now integrating S-350 to protect cities it has that high G turns that can deal with buildings for things missed by S-500 at high altitude. This HIMAR is high altitude rocket. some of the intercepts based on video they presented were above 18km at much closer range. SAM missile has to accelerate extreme fast to gain altitude.

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It is speculated, although not by reputable sources, that the HQ-16 was a joint project between Chinese designers and Almaz-Antey. In terms of range, specs, launch mode and flexibility, the system does share quite a few similarities with S350. Perhaps there is a chance that lessons from the HQ-16 was incorporated into later Russian developments.
 
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That article is one of the most bonkers opinions I've ever read:

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"Putin has already lost in Ukraine. China’s coming war in Taiwan must be our focus"

When the war in Ukraine ends, Russia will be irrelevant. Putin’s army has been decimated on the fields of east Ukraine; other than Moscow’s nuclear forces, Putin – or more likely his successor – will have nothing left with which to threaten the West, especially once Finland, Sweden, and Ukraine have joined the Nato bulwark.

Even these weapons will be of no practical use. The much-vaunted Russian nuclear arsenal is impotent against the Western nuclear deterrent. Given the state of Moscow’s other forces, there are genuine questions over exactly how much of it even works. And, of course, the Kremlin has shown no understanding of how to actually deploy these threats to achieve its goals. So far, it’s achieved the exact opposite of what it was supposed to; Putin’s threats of Armageddon have encouraged the west to arm Ukraine to the teeth and expand NATO eastwards.

Russia is over, bar the shooting. Tomorrow’s threat lies in Asia, and like an unseen pathogen is creeping up on us all but unnoticed by many. While Putin dominates the headlines, the recent MOD “Integrated Review Refresh” rightly identified China as the major threat to UK and NATO defence and security.

Beijing has invested vast sums in building a massive modern army, navy and air force. It is intent on a massive expansion in its stock of nuclear warheads. Its ‘belt and road’ initiatives, particularly across Africa, seem like a modern form of colonialism aimed at making countries reliant on the goodwill of the CCP while resources are extracted and sites for military ports identified.

And, of course, there are the unconventional capabilities of the state. It now seems most likely that the Covid-19 pandemic was caused by some sort of accident at the Wuhan virology lab. The Chinese state has gone to extraordinary lengths to prevent any proper investigation which might confirm this, and other labs remain shrouded in secrecy. Some may well be conducting dangerous “gain of function” experimentation with pathogens, with potential military applications. As we saw just three years ago, these can bring a country to its knees faster than any amount of military hardware.

Hardware which, incidentally, we may well lack. Right now, Ukraine is dominating our political, military and security apparatus. Vladimir Putin is the most dangerous man in Europe, and it is right that he is stopped. But a relatively small event in Sudan, which almost passed by unnoticed, has now seen our diminutive and overstretched military straining to get a few hundred Brits to safety in Cyprus. This should be a wake-up call; we need a military that isn't just for show, but can effectively protect these Isles.

After all, new threats will come. China has been eyeing Taiwan like a shark eyes a seal. Our two massive aircraft carriers do not seem quite the “white elephants” they did a few years ago, and it is good that we have some capabilities to lend to Western efforts in the region. But China in security terms is like an iceberg; we can all see its military expansion above the waterline, but what is happening below is vast, dangerous, and not entirely obvious.

For too long we have been happy to accept the economic benefits of trade and investment flows with China while turning a blind eye to the potent security risks this poses. The bill is now coming due. Beijing is the most worrying threat to global stability by some margin.

It is now time to stop talking about China as a security threat, but to actively start to mitigate it. Fortunately for us, the strange brand of Chinese communism has capitalist economic principles at its heart. The best way to prevent oxygenated economic blood feeding Chinese expansion is to clamp the arteries that feed it; the US and European markets that funnel cash back towards Beijing. Any squeeze on Chinese market access will deny China the resources it needs to expand financially and politically. While military force will have a vital role to play, the economic jugular is what will matter most in the long run.

Colonel (Retd) Hamish de Bretton-Gordon OBE is a former commander of the 1st Royal Tank Regiment and a former commander of UK & NATO CBRN Forces

Rt Hon Tobias Ellwood Conservative MP for Bournemouth East, Chair of the House of Commons Defence Select Committee
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The composition of the American delegation of defense contractors, which will arrive on May 2 this year, has become known. to Taiwan to participate in the national defense industry forum.

Among them are representatives of companies / organizations:
AeroVironment,
AEVEX Aerospace,
American Institute in Taiwan
BAE Systems,
cube Corporation,
Elbit Systems Of America,
General Atomics,
General Electric,
LKD Aerospace,
Maritime Tactical Systems,
Northrop Grumman Corporation,
pacific Rim Defense,
Persistent Systems,
Planate Management Group,
project 2049,
Raytheon Technology,
Tactical Air Support,
Teledyne FLIR LLC,
The Rehfeldt Group,
US Taiwan Business Council,
lockheed martin corporation,
L3Harris,
SNC Corporation.

During the visit, AeroVironment can see the Taiwanese version of the Switchblade drone and provide feedback to the NCSIST developer. The characteristics of the drone, which is scheduled for testing this summer and mass production in 2024, are similar to those of the Switchblade 300.

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Biscuits said:
It is speculated, although not by reputable sources, that the HQ-16 was a joint project between Chinese designers and Almaz-Antey. In terms of range, specs, launch mode and flexibility, the system does share quite a few similarities with S350. Perhaps there is a chance that lessons from the HQ-16 was incorporated into later Russian developments.
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i think its more of Buk-M counter part. that is maximum 8 per launcher. small missiles like Tor or Pantsir you can put more per launcher but not size of 9M96. this thing will need extensive testing. when you look at S-350 launcher its really compact for amount of heavy missiles.
 
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