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[SanWenYu]

China is not a developing country any more, says the US Congress unanimously. What happened to the gang of China collapsing and China stuck (in middle income)?

Comrade Chang, where have you been? Mother nation requires your diligence!

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415:0，美众议院要让中国当发达国家？​

文/观察者网 刘程辉】美国反华闹剧又出新篇。当地时间3月27日，美国国会众议院以415票赞成、0票反对的表决结果，通过了所谓“中华人民共和国不是发展中国家法”，要求国务卿致力于在有美国参与的国际组织中剥夺中国的“发展中国家”地位。提出该草案的共和党议员声称，中国已成为仅次于美国的世界第二大经济体，应阻止中国获得发展中国家的特殊待遇。

 

[Temstar]

From my WeChat circle of neighbors and friends:
- 80% posted congratulatory moments on China's 70th anniversary
- two guys (out of about 20) post moments that bash China from time to time. I've blocked their moments since.
- I estimate at least half of them, if not more, are still permanent residents. Canadian citizenship is not hard to get, only requires 3 out of 5 years of residency and passing a test. I've known most of these people for at least that long.
- Out of the 5 or so families I'm familiar enough to discuss politics with, one expresses mostly negative views on China, while 4 express mostly positive views. I don't usually discuss politics with friends and neighbors, so there's no prior filtering on my part.

Of course, these are my personal experiences, so YMMV.

Australian-Chinese diaspora tend to be fairly pro-PRC. During 2008 Beijing Olympic flame rally Australia is one of the last steps and after seeing all the harassment in other countries like France Australian-Chinese turned out in force in Canberra to protect the flame. On that day Canberra was a sea of red flag and I'm told by my friend who went of all the times she sang Chinese national anthem that was the one time she really got the feels singing it. The Olympic torch went around with no issues on the Australia leg.

And of course last year when Scott Morrison lost his job as PM the Chinese community overwhelmingly voted against his party. My parent's electorate, one of the safest seat for the Liberal Party and with large Chinese population (full of Chinese small business owners who traditionally voted for Liberals because they think they are fiscal conservative) lost for the first time in decades and an independent was voted in because even thought they like how Liberal is pro-business, aren't no one want a taste of Zyklon-B shower.

I think it's to do with when your local Chinese diaspora arrived. Australian-Chinese are mostly from mainland after the economic reform, my family included and so they generally have a positive view of PRC. The earlier arrivals mainly from Hong Kong prior to 1997 tend to view PRC negatively but these days they are outnumbered by mainlanders. Pretty much all the ABC I've meet that came from Taiwan are all super blue and generally pro-unification. One even told me specifically they migrated to Australia from Taiwan because they've had it up to here with the greens.

The many generation old Chinese migrants that originally came during Gold Rush days are a very small minority, from what I see though they also tend to be more pro-PRC than against because they think CPC is doing a good job making China into a strong country so that people no longer needed to escape famine like old China.

The Malaysian-Australian-Chinese and Singaporean-Australian-Chinese and others that came by the way of SEA tend to be really pro-PRC, perhaps even more so than mainlanders. The Malaysian-Chinese old man that I use to work with in the office was really impressed with all the developments back in his Fujian home down every time he goes back and he thinks CPC was far too merciful when they cracked down on Xinjiang.

For the US where the diaspora is made up of many more distinct waves reaching further back I get the feel each wave of diaspora don't really see eye to eye on issues, and US is only too happy to use divide and conquer on them.

 

[MortyandRick]

Mexico President is pissed due to invasion threat and accusation of failed state and drug trafficking. Most Global South and other not aligned nations are probably tired of the US and EU telling them what to do or what not to do. Especially since the US doesn't give a damn about them except trying to convince them China is bad.

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Comments of the article are based af. Lol

 

[Eventine]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1640687680911470592

As predicted by everyone Harris's trip to Africa isn't going well. Ghana's president actually said to her face publicly something like "you have all these concerns about China, but we don't." of course you won't find that footage on Reuters.

US: but have you seen what they did to the Uyghurs and the Tibetans? this is what will happen to Africans if you allow them in

Africa: don't know too much about the Uyghurs and the Tibetans, but we do know a lot about what you did to Africans

US: that was in the past. African Americans are proud, freedom loving Americans today

Africa: they don't seem very proud or free in prison

US: tell you what, our president was African just two elections ago

Africa: yeah and one election ago, your president called our countries a "shit hole" and tried to stop us from coming

US: that was Trump, President Biden respects all nations and races equally

Africa: so what you're saying is, the US's attitude towards Africa depends on whose in charge and that changes every few years depending on how the American public's feeling. so tell us why we should rely on a "friend" like that?

 

[solarz]

Australian-Chinese diaspora tend to be fairly pro-PRC. During 2008 Beijing Olympic flame rally Australia is one of the last steps and after seeing all the harassment in other countries like France Australian-Chinese turned out in force in Canberra to protect the flame. On that day Canberra was a sea of red flag and I'm told by my friend who went of all the times she sang Chinese national anthem that was the one time she really got the feels singing it. The Olympic torch went around with no issues on the Australia leg.

And of course last year when Scott Morrison lost his job as PM the Chinese community overwhelmingly voted against his party. My parent's electorate, one of the safest seat for the Liberal Party and with large Chinese population (full of Chinese small business owners who traditionally voted for Liberals because they think they are fiscal conservative) lost for the first time in decades and an independent was voted in because even thought they like how Liberal is pro-business, aren't no one want a taste of Zyklon-B shower.

I think it's to do with when your local Chinese diaspora arrived. Australian-Chinese are mostly from mainland after the economic reform, my family included and so they generally have a positive view of PRC. The earlier arrivals mainly from Hong Kong prior to 1997 tend to view PRC negatively but these days they are outnumbered by mainlanders. Pretty much all the ABC I've meet that came from Taiwan are all super blue and generally pro-unification. One even told me specifically they migrated to Australia from Taiwan because they've had it up to here with the greens.

The many generation old Chinese migrants that originally came during Gold Rush days are a very small minority, from what I see though they also tend to be more pro-PRC than against because they think CPC is doing a good job making China into a strong country so that people no longer needed to escape famine like old China.

The Malaysian-Australian-Chinese and Singaporean-Australian-Chinese and others that came by the way of SEA tend to be really pro-PRC, perhaps even more so than mainlanders. The Malaysian-Chinese old man that I use to work with in the office was really impressed with all the developments back in his Fujian home down every time he goes back and he thinks CPC was far too merciful when they cracked down on Xinjiang.

For the US where the diaspora is made up of many more distinct waves reaching further back I get the feel each wave of diaspora don't really see eye to eye on issues, and US is only too happy to use divide and conquer on them.

Sounds like Australian Chinese is similar to Canadian Chinese. We also had a Red Rally in Toronto in response to the anti-China frenzy during Beijing Olympics torch relay.

Unfortunately, I can't say I agree with the idea that the difference in attitude comes from differences in immigration periods. The people I'm thinking about in the US are literally from the same period and social classes as what I see in Canada, but their attitude toward China is night and day.

Instead, I think the difference is due to cognitive dissonance and more prevalent anti-China propaganda in the US.

By cognitive dissonance, I'm referring to the fact that it's much more difficult to stay in the US compared to Canada (and I assume Australia?). Therefore, the Chinese who live in US need to find more reasons to justify their prior sacrifices or ongoing hardship. The most obvious way to do so is to cast aspersions on life in China. If they can convince themselves that life in China sucks, they can feel better about the choice they made to immigrate to the US.

 

[Eventine]

Sounds like Australian Chinese is similar to Canadian Chinese. We also had a Red Rally in Toronto in response to the anti-China frenzy during Beijing Olympics torch relay.

Unfortunately, I can't say I agree with the idea that the difference in attitude comes from differences in immigration periods. The people I'm thinking about in the US are literally from the same period and social classes as what I see in Canada, but their attitude toward China is night and day.

Instead, I think the difference is due to cognitive dissonance and more prevalent anti-China propaganda in the US.

By cognitive dissonance, I'm referring to the fact that it's much more difficult to stay in the US compared to Canada (and I assume Australia?). Therefore, the Chinese who live in US need to find more reasons to justify their prior sacrifices or ongoing hardship. The most obvious way to do so is to cast aspersions on life in China. If they can convince themselves that life in China sucks, they can feel better about the choice they made to immigrate to the US.

One thing you might want to look into is what region of China the immigrants are coming from in each country.

Patriotic sentiments aren't equally distributed in China. Coastal regions like Shanghai are relatively less likely to be patriotic towards the CCP.

Being from the same period / social class doesn't mean you're from the same region. Even though they're all Chinese, I've observed quite a bit of region-based grouping among immigrants.

 

[AssassinsMace]

The establish dems is trying really hard to make her into presidential candidate material but she keeps flopping on her face. Idk why they keep trying after 3 years of endless failure. It’s either Trump vs Biden or Hillary in 2024.

There was a news story a little while back that Kamala Harris felt disrespected by Democrats especially in the White House because when the Vice President enters the room, there's suppose to be some deference given to the Vice President where she was given none. Frankly Kamala Harris going to Africa is like Japan being pitched as alternative to China for international infrastructure loans. Japan doesn't do anything that doesn't have the approval of the US. Japan was just the non-white face of US policies. By how white people think, they see Kamala Harris as even better than Japan as a front for promoting Western rule t Africans. The Democratic establishment probably only sees that as Kamala's value to them because they know sending a white official to lecture Africans is bad optics.

 

[coolgod]

Israel-China FTA could have been signed if not for heavy US pressure on Israel

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1640431216045223936

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1640431219690156032

You might be on to something, that tweet was talking about the low profile 8th round of FTA talks between China and Israel recently held in Israel.

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The liberal US establishment has been attacking Netanyahu for a while now.

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Netanyahu Has Made Israel a U.S. Adversary​

A similar approach can be seen in Netanyahu’s policy toward China, the other global player determined to undercut American leadership. China’s rivalry with the U.S. alone should have restrained Netanyahu from forging a comprehensive partnership with it. Yet under his leadership, Israel has become a leading supplier of R&D and cutting-edge technologies and accelerated China’s transformation into becoming America’s “

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,” as President Biden has defined it.


Remarkably, Israel has also at least declared itself a a geo-strategic backer of China. At a 2017 meeting with President Xi, Netanyahu encouraged China to assume its rightful place “on the world stage,” and waxed romantic by describing the Israeli-Chinese relationship as “

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.” Meanwhile here on earth, Netanyahu’s Israel has opened itself up to strategic investments by China in its infrastructure, such as the mass transit system in the Tel Aviv metropolitan area, which will also run in sensitive underground locations abutting Israel’s military and defense compound, and parts of the Haifa Bay Port, which

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.

Netanyahu finally responded to US attacks in a tweet

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1640835891932418049

These tweets seem like subtle hints that Israel is trying to play the I'll be friends with China if you don't be nice card. Imagine the shockwaves it would sent if soon China and Israel signs a FTA in the near future.

 

[Temstar]

By cognitive dissonance, I'm referring to the fact that it's much more difficult to stay in the US compared to Canada (and I assume Australia?). Therefore, the Chinese who live in US need to find more reasons to justify their prior sacrifices or ongoing hardship. The most obvious way to do so is to cast aspersions on life in China. If they can convince themselves that life in China sucks, they can feel better about the choice they made to immigrate to the US.

I think this is a big factor, particularly if you're diaspora and not comfortably middle class you have to put down living quality in China and by extension China itself to justify that you made the right decision migrating, else you basically have to admit you've made the wrong decision in the past, and people hate that.

My dad has a friend who also came to Australia around the same time at the start of 90s where they ranted an apartment together after arriving. He's the only person around me I know of who's really anti-PRC. Back then there were 5 of them in their group of new migrate and he's by far the worst off in the group because he consistently made poor decisions both in career choices as well as when to invest in properties.

I think this made him identify more with blue collar working class and he tunes into all that far right Murdoch Sky News and we observe that over the years this has caused an attitude change in him. These days he reckon USN could easily kick PLAN off the SCS islands if they want and so on.

In American-Chinese diaspora what's the proportion like for middle class? Is it above general population average? It certainly feels like the case here in Australia.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

I think this is a big factor, particularly if you're diaspora and not comfortably middle class you have to put down living quality in China and by extension China itself to justify that you made the right decision migrating, else you basically have to admit you've made the wrong decision in the past, and people hate that.

My dad has a friend who also came to Australia around the same time at the start of 90s where they ranted an apartment together after arriving. He's the only person around me I know of who's really anti-PRC. Back then there were 5 of them in their group of new migrate and he's by far the worst off in the group because he consistently made poor decisions both in career choices as well as when to invest in properties.

I think this made him identify more with blue collar working class and he tunes into all that far right Murdoch Sky News and we observe that over the years this has caused an attitude change in him. These days he reckon USN could easily kick PLAN off the SCS islands if they want and so on.

In American-Chinese diaspora what's the proportion like for middle class? Is it above general population average? It certainly feels like the case here in Australia.

Identify as working class?

Identify as proletariat.