The War in the Ukraine

[foxmulder]

They already did, though

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1614310426795446273

Confirmation of what's being sent to Ukraine by the brits including AS90 SPG's which are shittier Krab

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1615023057944596480

This is an exception and just happened couple days ago so far Russia did not attack these targets.

 

[sheogorath]

With each day, there seems to be more T-90M footage. Either they are sending more or they are getting less shy about their presence in the front

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1615007902367981568

Warehouse near Severdonestk with a few T-90M's

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1614976558556381185

 

[optionsss]

Nope... They do not want to. Otherwise they can. Instead of bombing the electric distribution nodes they can easily hit the power generation facilities. Especially coal and gas ones. Nuclear ones are safe because you know.. hydro ones are not that important because they produce only like 5% of Ukraine peace time energy.. So Russia can wipe ~60% production if it wants. The missiles would work on these facilities, too. Still though.. nuclear ones in the western part of the country should sustain critical needs (~10-20%) hence distribution center looks more attractive for Russia.

To hit a primary station Russia need to destroy the boiler or turbines inside concrete buildings, but that's hard to do with cheap drones and even cruise missiles. You need the payload to have a large penetrating warhead and very accurate. The substation on the other hand is exposed and much easier to destroy. It is more cost effective.

 

[Virtup]

To hit a primary station Russia need to destroy the boiler or turbines inside concrete buildings, but that's hard to do with cheap drones and even cruise missiles. You need the payload to have a large penetrating warhead and very accurate. The substation on the other hand is exposed and much easier to destroy. It is more cost effective.

True, from what I heard that turbine was wrecked by an Iskandar M, not a cruise missile and definitely not a drone.

 

[taxiya]

The weight becomes a problem when you put bridges into picture. Apparently, many bridges in Ukraine would not be able to support tanks weighing 60 to 70 tons. A few months ago a US Army general pointed that as a majority drawback for Abrams tanks operating in Ukraine.

That is an astonishing explanation. Has NATO never wanted their tanks to drive into USSR? Did they expect the retreating red army to leave bridges intact for NATO tanks to give a chase?

Bridge and road limitations are only meant for domestic road for strategic mobility in peace time or just before the war, never meant to be the limitation on the designed targeting battle field.

 

[sunnymaxi]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1614999689304363009

 

[taxiya]

Why in the world are they not hitting the power generation plants? Are they fighting a war or are they trying to win the Nobel Peace Prize?

It is equal to the spirit of "wounding but not killing an enemy soldier to lure another soldier into the trap and keeps it going". It works better for the side militarily more but not overwhelmingly powerful. Think about the tactic of nomadic people's constant incursions into settled countries. But of course, if one gained overwhelming advantage, one would finish off the enemy in one blow. Good example is Qin Shihuang's final campaigns finishing off the other six kingdoms in a few years after hundreds years of attrition.

 

[taxiya]

Frankly, because they can't. There isn't any great mystery here, the answer to every question of the type "why isn't Russia doing x, y, and z?" is because it can't.

Why isn't Russia destroying the power plants? It can't. Why isn't Russia destroying the bridges? It can't.

If they could, they would.

Destroying a power tower (which they did) is more difficult than destroying a much larger boiler room.

 

[FriedButter]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1614999689304363009

IMO this tweet needs a bit of clarification and a correction.

1) Andrey Victorovich is not a serving Lieutenant General but a retired one which the tweet did not say.

2) His opinion is hardly something to take seriously. He is a deputy of the State Duma of the lower house. Not even a deputy chairmen. In other words, it’s like taking the opinion of a member from the US house of reps.

 

[taxiya]

To hit a primary station Russia need to destroy the boiler or turbines inside concrete buildings, but that's hard to do with cheap drones and even cruise missiles. You need the payload to have a large penetrating warhead and very accurate. The substation on the other hand is exposed and much easier to destroy. It is more cost effective.

Civilian thermal power plant (except nuclear) isn't any stronger than your shopping mall.