The War in the Ukraine

[lcloo]

I'm assuming he's referring to the M1s given to the Iraqi army, who subsequently had their arses handed to them by ISIS.

I agree, Americans need to start giving American platforms to Ukraine. Even if the Ukrainians aren't fully familiar with them it's not like they have many options. I doubt there's many surplus Soviet era tanks left around the world.

There are still many M48 and M60 in current services or in storage around the World. I expect that when US allies run out of Soviet made tanks, these M48 and M60s will be next to be sent to Ukraine.

They will probably send M1 only after all these M48 and M60 stocks become depleted in a long war scenario.

 

[pmc]

During this Russian invasion of the Ukraine we have learned that everything we think Russia can "do easily", in real life they cannot do it easily and it always turns out to be more complicated than expected by everyone... Therefore, seen I've seen it, don't rule anything out...

i am not sure where you get this assumption. General McMaster (former NSA) latest interivew (GoodFellows Youtube) said that Russia has fired more missiles in months than US has fired over 20 years.

than this presented for Arab audience.

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According to my information, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to more than three hundred thousand soldiers. This is the size of the army that Ukraine had at the time of the start of the special military operation. This means that we have practically destroyed the Ukrainian army.

 

[solarz]

destroying the bridges over the dnipro to cut ukraine in half was something i said russia should do before even the start of the war. that they still havent attempted this is quite perplexing to me, my only interpretation at this point is they cant.

Bridges can be rebuilt.

During the Korean war, the PVA blew up a bridge three times trying to trap fleeing American forces, only to have the Americans rebuild the bridge each time. This was in 1951.

 

[tabu]

Why are there so many videos of these Lancets lately?

The series has gone, it was bound to happen sooner or later. Next they will build up volumes, sanctions without a transport blockade will only slow down the rate of production growth. Perhaps there is cooperation with Iran with kitting, the latter has already established a gray chain of high-tech for a long time. In commercial quantities it is a substitute for long-range high-precision artillery.

No one has a complete antidote. But one can look for ways to reduce efficiency. The most accessible and simple are lightweight quick-mount shelters: lattice domes, nets in combination with or without caponiers. Even lightweight Kevlar netting is guaranteed to stop such a lancet. This is not a cure-all, they will launch them in links, then switch to reusable variants with detachable head part, but it already reduces attack efficiency and gains time.

 

[Anlsvrthng]

destroying the bridges over the dnipro to cut ukraine in half was something i said russia should do before even the start of the war. that they still havent attempted this is quite perplexing to me, my only interpretation at this point is they cant.

These are Soviet built bridges.

Needs lot of heavy warhead.

Most likelly on a weekly basis the Russians needs to use up 50-100 Isklander to keep them disabled, most likelly they haven't got that capacity.

If there will be a big push then they will start to disable the bridges, and keep the tempo for few weeks.

There are still many M48 and M60 in current services or in storage around the World. I expect that when US allies run out of Soviet made tanks, these M48 and M60s will be next to be sent to Ukraine.

They will probably send M1 only after all these M48 and M60 stocks become depleted in a long war scenario.

Question is the capacity to refurbish and maintain them.

Knowing the standing of USA MIC they have just barelly enought capacity to maintain the current tanks for training purposes, wartime surge capacity for spares,and to train russian speaking maintanance personel is next to 0.

And don't forget, to have enought spare on hand they need to make lot more parts than the sustainment level at the begining, othervise there will be weeks of waiting for parts.

In Ukraine there are T-72 that been repaired 11 times befor cooked off. How could they establish similar capacity for tanks that are out of service for decades , and only few country keep them most likelly on papaer.

As I caclulating Ukraine had close to half as much tank as the USA at the begining of the war ,and many more on storage.

Means the USA can't supply enought tank, becuase in that case all engineering / part supply burden will compromise the availability of the current tank fleet.

 

[Anlsvrthng]

Why are there so many videos of these Lancets lately?

The series has gone, it was bound to happen sooner or later. Next they will build up volumes, sanctions without a transport blockade will only slow down the rate of production growth. Perhaps there is cooperation with Iran with kitting, the latter has already established a gray chain of high-tech for a long time. In commercial quantities it is a substitute for long-range high-precision artillery.

No one has a complete antidote. But one can look for ways to reduce efficiency. The most accessible and simple are lightweight quick-mount shelters: lattice domes, nets in combination with or without caponiers. Even lightweight Kevlar netting is guaranteed to stop such a lancet. This is not a cure-all, they will launch them in links, then switch to reusable variants with detachable head part, but it already reduces attack efficiency and gains time.

Just clarify, Russia can make ALL components that needed in a Lancet drone.

40 nm semiconductor manufacturing capacity MORE than enought for the electronics of it.

And it has HEAT charge, visible on many video, means there is not so much can be done to stop them.

The liquid tungsten will penetrate the canister of missiles from 10 meters without issue.

 

[gelgoog]

FYI back in the Cold War the plan was to blow up the bridges in the Oder in Germany, if it came to it, with tactical nukes. Bridges can be pretty hard to destroy. But I think an hypersonic weapon like Kinzhal or Iskander can do it due to kinetic effects and large explosive warhead.

 

[sheogorath]

Seems there was a new wave of missile strikes today

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1593148389637881858

 

[tabu]

There is all sorts of BS being spread around in the media like that Russia is using S-300 missiles to attack ground targets in Ukraine. Which is clearly bollocks. Who in their right mind would use expensive surface to air missiles to do the same thing a cheap 300mm artillery rocket can do? Way more likely is that Ukrainian S-300 missiles from old Soviet era stocks are failing and hitting their own infrastructure like what happened with the Buk in Kiev in the early part of the war but of course that never enters their tiny little brains.

Right now we have S-300 SAM debris hitting Poland but of course the Western media does not consider the obvious. That this was a missile misfire by Ukrainian SAMs and not some kind of Russian missile strike.

Unfortunately this is not outright nonsense, and the Russians themselves have admitted and even boasted about the S-300 strikes on target land.

The missiles used for ground operation are those with expired shelf life to be disposed of, produced in the 80-90s. There is no point for Russia to bother with costly lifetime extensions when it has an established assembly line production facility.

They have about 5000 old C300 missiles that they use for ground strikes, no accuracy, but for a nightmare of civilians it will do.

It has a range of about 180 km after a slight modification. The accuracy is plus or minus 500m, because at such a distance it is launched as a rocket launcher. But it hits the cities. And it has been done for several months, in summer they started to use such way in Nikolaev. The Ukrainian army has not so many missiles left... This is just a lot of this stuff with expired shelf life.

 

[tabu]

Just clarify, Russia can make ALL components that needed in a Lancet drone.

40 nm semiconductor manufacturing capacity MORE than enought for the electronics of it.

And it has HEAT charge, visible on many video, means there is not so much can be done to stop them.

The liquid tungsten will penetrate the canister of missiles from 10 meters without issue.

It is yet to be seen that such protection is feasible. The Lancet is a circulating munition, and its typical targets are vehicles, which must be easily movable. It is one thing to erect an earthen wall that provides some protection against artillery fire (which is often not done). It is another thing to move and install a mesh perch every time, which may interfere with the protected vehicle and does not protect it from blast shrapnel.