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MortyandRick

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So they put a cap on Russian oil. Prevent Russia from selling at a certain price. If Russia doesn't sell at that certain price, the they will not buy it, and will try to prevent others from buying it.

They assume Russia has to sell. But there is only so much oil production in the world, so if the Russians refuse to sell, then they are betting that they can hold out longer than the Russians.... And this starts in December?

I'm confused as to how they will prevent others from buying it? If Russia decide not to sell oil to EU, and the price of Brent increases to let's say 200$, but their cap is at 50$, what's preventing others form buying it at 100$? Are they going to resort to piracy ?

Also with all the sanctions already on Russia, why would Russian companies want to comply with the cap? Doesn't make sense.
 

FriedButter

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So they put a cap on Russian oil. Prevent Russia from selling at a certain price. If Russia doesn't sell at that certain price, the they will not buy it, and will try to prevent others from buying it.

They assume Russia has to sell. But there is only so much oil production in the world, so if the Russians refuse to sell, then they are betting that they can hold out longer than the Russians.... And this starts in December?

I'm confused as to how they will prevent others from buying it? If Russia decide not to sell oil to EU, and the price of Brent increases to let's say 200$, but their cap is at 50$, what's preventing others form buying it at 100$? Are they going to resort to piracy ?

Also with all the sanctions already on Russia, why would Russian companies want to comply with the cap? Doesn't make sense.

Probably banning shipping insurance. However, this isn’t the 1900s anymore and there are non-western insurance available.
 

Appix

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In 2019, RAND corporation, a think tank of the US military industrial complex wrote a report (which anyone can still download and read)

Extending Russia - Competing from Advantageous Ground

Some of the measures they had planned include, but not limited to:

Economic Measures
Measure 1: Hinder Petroleum Exports
Measure 2: Reduce Natural Gas Exports and Hinder Pipeline Expansions
Measure 3: Impose Sanctions
Measure 4: Enhance Russian Brain Drain

Geopolitical Measures
Measure 1: Provide Lethal Aid to Ukraine
Measure 2: Increase Support to the Syrian Rebels
Measure 3: Promote Regime Change in Belarus
Measure 4: Exploit Tensions in the South Caucasus
Measure 5: Reduce Russian Influence in Central Asia
Measure 6: Challenge Russian Presence in Moldova

Land and Multidomain Measures
Measure 1: Increase U.S. and NATO Land Forces in Europe
Measure 2: Increase NATO Exercises in Europe
Measure 3: Withdraw from the INF Treaty
Measure 4: Invest in New Capabilities to Manipulate Russian Risk Perceptions


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escobar

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So they put a cap on Russian oil. Prevent Russia from selling at a certain price. If Russia doesn't sell at that certain price, the they will not buy it, and will try to prevent others from buying it.

They assume Russia has to sell. But there is only so much oil production in the world, so if the Russians refuse to sell, then they are betting that they can hold out longer than the Russians.... And this starts in December?

I'm confused as to how they will prevent others from buying it? If Russia decide not to sell oil to EU, and the price of Brent increases to let's say 200$, but their cap is at 50$, what's preventing others form buying it at 100$? Are they going to resort to piracy ?

Also with all the sanctions already on Russia, why would Russian companies want to comply with the cap? Doesn't make sense.
there is a nice counterargument here
 

FriedButter

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Do you have a counterargument from a different source. I find it hard to care about the arguments from the guy who works as assistant secretary for economic policies at the US treasury. Who more then likely played a role in crafting the previous disastrous economic shock and awe plan. That was a complete failure and an embarrassment to the West.
 

MortyandRick

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Do you have a counterargument from a different source. I find it hard to care about the arguments from the guy who works as assistant secretary for economic policies at the US treasury. Who more then likely played a role in crafting the previous disastrous economic shock and awe plan. That was a complete failure and an embarrassment to the West.
?? I thought The counter argument is written by someone to counter the assistant secretary.
 
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