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emblem21

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kokole said:
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the life expectancy of many of these EU leaders is going to be quite short. These people must think that democracy and freedom is the lynchpin that holds a nation together. It’s not, is the ability of the government to provide safety and protect along with all the daily necessities required for the people to live including food, water, electricity, gas, heat and medicine among others. For Macron to state that the French people need to make sacrifices on top of his actions that have put many in France out of business through stupid policies of his own, will turn out to be what ends up being the signing of his own death warrant along with all those green idiots in Germany and Brussels and Klaus Swarb who assumes that just because they are pushing for a green agenda at the expense of the people while saying that it’s the people fault is going to justify their actions while somehow ensuring that they are above the law is simply going to put them on a path to an early grave because when the masses lose it, nothing is going to protect these idiots and don’t think these people excaping to other countries is going to save them, because most of the global south have no interest in protecting them either.
 
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Chilled_k6

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East Asia is is a better position than most of Europe as their fertility rate drop occurred much later. The reason the drop is lower is because of the lack of immigration. If you look at the native populations of most European countries much lower than the national rate.

The concerning thing is I've not seen a single country implement anything that could be considered potentially successful. It's all things that were implemented and failed before.

The way I'm increasingly seeing it is natural selection. If a society needs to implement draconian measures to keep its people reproducing it doesn't deserve to exist. I wonder how many tribes in prehistorical times went extinct because they didn't bother learning to cultivate fire, save up enough food for winter, etc.
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Then that might be the destiny of the human race, since all trends point to decreasing fertility as countries industrialize. I guess in a way it is natural selection, since the individual humans become more productive you naturally need less people. Maybe in an ironic twist, countries that fail to industrialize will live on?

Morbid jokes aside. China implemented pretty draconian measures (1 child policy) to control the exploding population. There's a lot of positive arguments that the policy helped propel China to where it is today. Now China needs to reverse the trend in the other way, I don't see why "draconian" policies shouldn't be implemented in some form, if the 1 child policy was introduced before and people's preference back then was to have big families. There are ways to heavily incentivize and change people's thinking. It's like tending the garden, if left naturally there'll be weeds all over the place. With some intervention, the plants will grow up well.
 
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