Well that's what i disagree with. From the supposed democracy, there is no "higher ups". US government isn't responsible for what happened. It's their people.
Ukrainian War Developments
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Agree to disagree. Not everything is cut and dry or black and white. But I am not going to derail this thread. This debate can get really long.
Speaking of this thread,
Less over sight from Congress if it is not on US soil.
In this war from my humble experience, Russian soldiers were too gentle and soft in contrary to dirty American style In Iraq 2003, I was 14 years old at the time, visiting relatives in Erbil so I landed in Baghdad then traveled north, and I saw the extent of the destruction in the city and the wrecked cars, buildings, and my relatives used to tell me that in this car a family was killed, and in this bus, civilians were crushed by tanks, and in this house, no one survived but what made me relieve more than 4600 US soldier got perished in Iraq,,,, Russian must change their style.
Welcome back!!!
Yeah, I get banned for a week and the thread went to Hell, lol! It’s no longer a thread comprising informative posts by informed commentators. But, at least the one true disrupter finally got banned, today!
I’m still callin’ it for Ukraine!
Remember this, it wasn’t well received?
This was before the invasion. I’ve been proven correct. Putin’s, pre-invasion, grandstanding got nothing!
Will his invasion accomplish nothing, as well?
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Dead US volunteer...
Day 18 of the #US #Russia war on #Ukraine soil:
In its first direct message to the west and #NATO, Russia hit the NATO-US-Ukraine joint training centre at Yavoriv, around 25 km from borders with #Poland.
#NATO received the very serious warning:
#Russia will target US - Europe weapons shipments to #Ukraine even beyond the Ukrainian borders.
The Yavoriv base is called "Peacekeeper Center", near the western city of Lviv. It has been used for training of #Ukraine army by foreign instructors, mainly the #US Florida National Guard, to prepare Ukraine to become a NATO base challenging #Russia.
It has been used as the safest hub between #NATO country members and #Ukraine to transport lethal weapons to be used in the ongoing war because #Russia bombed most Ukrainian airports (only yesterday two airports were neutralised).
In its first direct message to the west and #NATO, Russia hit the NATO-US-Ukraine joint training centre at Yavoriv, around 25 km from borders with #Poland.
#NATO received the very serious warning:
#Russia will target US - Europe weapons shipments to #Ukraine even beyond the Ukrainian borders.
The Yavoriv base is called "Peacekeeper Center", near the western city of Lviv. It has been used for training of #Ukraine army by foreign instructors, mainly the #US Florida National Guard, to prepare Ukraine to become a NATO base challenging #Russia.
It has been used as the safest hub between #NATO country members and #Ukraine to transport lethal weapons to be used in the ongoing war because #Russia bombed most Ukrainian airports (only yesterday two airports were neutralised).
Make of it what you like...
Russia is concerned with limiting the extent of civilian casualties. As such it is not undertaking the ruthless shock and awe tactics that the Americans used during the 2003 Invasion of Iraq. Secondly, the Iraqi Armed Forces refused to fight. Within many cities along the route to Baghdad, if the Iraqis had been determined to fight, the Americans would have suffered much heavier casualties. It was after the occupation began that the Iraqis undertook an insurgency.
In the early stages of this invasion, many, here (and elsewhere), were certain that the port of Odessa was a primary objective on the southern front. Now, well into the third week, not only has Odessa not been taken, but the ground forces that would have most likely advanced westward, towards Odessa, are, instead, advancing northward.
While acknowledging that a bridge along the main highway from Kherson to Odessa was blown by Ukranian forces two weeks ago, possibly making a direct route impassable, and that the advance northward might be to secure an alternate route, is it also plausible that Odessa was, in fact, not a primary objective on the southern front, but a secondary, or even tertiary, objective?
While acknowledging that a bridge along the main highway from Kherson to Odessa was blown by Ukranian forces two weeks ago, possibly making a direct route impassable, and that the advance northward might be to secure an alternate route, is it also plausible that Odessa was, in fact, not a primary objective on the southern front, but a secondary, or even tertiary, objective?
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