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You just noticed?
It doesn't make sense to approve Sinopharm but at the same time to stop using Sinovac.
The US seems to be confident about vaccination can stop the surge. I think it is too little and too late.
Masks have returned for LA for indoor.
The US seems to be confident about vaccination can stop the surge. I think it is too little and too late.
Masks have returned for LA for indoor.
Not exactly, the peer-reviewed results do show Sinopharm at 78% efficacy, while Sinovac was between 51%-83%. That was what the whole Duterte scandal was about when he wanted sinopharm when only sinovac was approved. Sinopharm has advantages over sinovac in that it released results quicker, then got WHO approval, and finally released peer results faster as well.
The writer is drinking too much kool-aid. Keeping borders close and people safe should always be the upmost priority for any government.
This journalist is just purely pathetic. The price Chinese vaccines offer to Covax means Chinese vaccines companies don't make much of a profit. They probably would have preferred to sell directly to those countries.
MSM is now producing at least a few anti-Chinese vaccines articles each day to demonize Chinese vaccines.
This journalist is just purely pathetic. The price Chinese vaccines offer to Covax means Chinese vaccines companies don't make much of a profit. They probably would have preferred to sell directly to those countries.
MSM is now producing at least a few anti-Chinese vaccines articles each day to demonize Chinese vaccines.
Let just wait and see. Although Sinopharm Beijing version performs 5-9% better than Wuhan version so Sinopharm could possibly outperform Sinovac.
The most effective way of dealing with this bashing is by ramping up the production of Chinese mRNA vaccines. A third dose in China using mRNA vaccine would also increase the protection for all Chinese people.
You're right. Propaganda has worked. Sinophobic propaganda in Malaysia worked. It started mainly against the Malaysian Chinese population, but eventually including China itself. Because of that, too many ppl refused to take the Sinovac vaccines. That propaganda is very prevalent among the Muslim Malay majority population in Malaysia, which comprises about 70% of the population. Malaysia ordered 45 mil doses of Pfizer vs only 16 mil of Sinovac. This is intentional. Its not truly about merit, believe me. The Malaysian govt is never making choices on merit. There must be a deal made somewhere. Just watch and see how fast Pfizer fulfils its orders to Malaysia. We might see delays and setbacks with the vaccination drive.
That being said. Malaysia approves Sinopharm and J&J vaccines for emergency use.
If Malaysia has enough Pfizer left for everyone, why the need to procure other vaccines? Well, basically whatever the Malaysian govt is doing at this point is inconsistent, confusing, and idiotic. For those unfamiliar with Malaysian politics, there is a power struggle going on in the govt itself. There are ppl wanting overrule others, flaunt their power, or in this case: remind who is in charge. Adham Baba the Health Minister who only just recently appear in the limelight. Was practically silent throughout the entire Covid-19 crisis in Malaysia. It was his Director General, Dr Noor Hisham, whom we see far more often, appear in the limelight. This is why the Malaysian govt is a mess.
No one can really trust this govt right now. That's why even with extreme lockdown measures, ppl going broke, rising suicides, and a stalled economy, cases are at an all time record high.
You would not be wrong if you ask: "WTF is going on in Malaysia?"
plawolf
Lieutenant General
More damning evidence at the likely hidden costs of western ‘let it rip’ covid ‘strategy’.
Covid: Younger adults still at risk of serious organ damage - study
Younger adults admitted to hospital with Covid are almost as likely to suffer from complications as those over 50 years old, a study has found.
Four in 10 of those between 19 and 49 developed problems with their kidneys, lungs or other organs while treated.
The research looked at 73,197 adults of all ages across 302 UK hospitals in the first wave of Covid in 2020.
"The message is that this is not just a disease of the elderly and frail," said Prof Calum Semple, who led the work.
"The data reinforces the fact that Covid is not flu and we are seeing even young adults coming into hospital suffering significant complications, some of which will require furthering monitoring and potentially further treatment in the future."
The study, conducted by researchers at seven UK universities, the Department of Health and Social Care and Public Health England, looked at the number of "complications" in those needing hospital treatment for Covid-19, defined as an organ-specific medical diagnosis.
Overall, around half of all adult patients suffered a least one complication during their hospital stay. The most common was a kidney injury, followed by lung and heart damage.
The highest rates were in those over 50 years old, with 51% reporting at least one problem. But they were also "very common" in younger age groups. Some 37% of 30 to 39 year olds and 44% of 40 to 49 year olds had at least one complication recorded by nurses and medical students involved in the study.
Doctors are not yet certain how a severe Covid illness can cause organ damage, but it is thought in some cases the body's own immune system can spark an inflammatory response and injure healthy tissue.
Paul Godfrey, from Frinton in Essex, developed Covid in March 2020 after suffering what he thought was a chest infection.
Paul, who was 31 at the time of diagnosis and has the lung condition bronchiectasis, said: "There's no doubt about it - the NHS staff who cared for me saved my life. I would not be here today if it wasn't for them."
The study, published in the medical journal the Lancet, found that those with pre-existing conditions were more likely to report complications but the risk was high even in young, previously healthy individuals.
'Worst experience of my life'
Paul was diagnosed with pneumonia in Colchester hospital and was told the bottom half of both his lungs had collapsed. He narrowly avoided being placed in an induced coma and spent two weeks on a Covid ward before he was allowed home in a wheelchair.
The research showed that 13% of 19 to 29 year olds and 17% of 30 to 39 year olds hospitalised with Covid were unable to look after themselves at discharge and had to rely on friends and family.
"It was the worst experience of my life and I am still dealing with it 18 months later," said Paul, who continues to suffer from extreme fatigue and breathlessness caused by his illness.
"I don't really know what the damage is to my body so I am just praying I get back to what I was."
Covid and younger adults
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Age is the single largest factor in determining a severe Covid infection.
Of the 406,687 people taken to hospital with the disease in England since the start of the pandemic, 62% were over the age of 65.
That leaves another 155,866 under the age of 65 who have needed hospital treatment since February 2020.
Higher vaccination rates in the elderly and vulnerable population mean that the average age of those hospitalised with the disease has been falling.
In the week ending 4 July, there were just 17 people over 85 years old admitted to hospital with Covid in England, compared with 478 aged between 25 and 44.
The research was conducted in the first wave of the pandemic between 17 January and 4 August 2020 - before vaccines were available and new variants of the virus had been detected.
The authors said the data suggested those with more severe Covid symptoms at admission to hospital were more likely to suffer serious health problems, showing the importance of vaccines in reducing the severity of the disease in this latest wave.
The study was only designed to look at short-term complications during a hospital stay but there is evidence some organ damage can persist, becoming a form of what is known as long Covid.
"We do know from other infectious diseases that these sorts of problems with your kidneys or heart can develop into longer-term complications," said Dr Annemarie Docherty, senior clinical lecturer at the University of Edinburgh and a consultant in intensive care medicine.
"I think it's reasonable to expect that this may be the same with Covid-19."
Nobody is talking about the breakthrough of Indian Covaxin and AstraZeneca.
Out of these 677 Covid positive participants, 71 had taken the Covaxin vaccine while the rest 604 had got the Covishield vaccine. Two of the participants had also taken the Chinese Sinopharm vaccine.
I think some people just don't want to take mRNA due to side effects and unknown long term side effects especially since Singapore is relative safe and able to contain the coronavirus.
Malaysia approved Sinopharm.
Hungary would offer a booster shot for everyone.
Out of these 677 Covid positive participants, 71 had taken the Covaxin vaccine while the rest 604 had got the Covishield vaccine. Two of the participants had also taken the Chinese Sinopharm vaccine.
I think some people just don't want to take mRNA due to side effects and unknown long term side effects especially since Singapore is relative safe and able to contain the coronavirus.
Malaysia approved Sinopharm.
Hungary would offer a booster shot for everyone.
Not sure why they still using remdesivir when it is pretty much useless.