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OppositeDay

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sndef888 said:
Are the waters of Yellow River, Yangtze clean enough for freshwater fish farms? Could be a huge boon for China's food self sufficiency.

But then there are cargo ships all along the Yangtze, probably wouldn't want marine diesel fish
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Freshwater fish farms themselves could be a serious source of pollution. And they use precious land and freshwater resources. International water is open to everyone. Sea water is free. Offshore saltwater fish farming is just superior in every way.

Chinese now are more and more accepting of sea fish which usually has less bones. Chinese supermarket now all have easy to cook frozen fillets. I think fresh water fish will gradually become restaurant only dishes.
 
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FangYuan

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The United States and Western nations subsidize agriculture. Their agricultural products are cheaper and China imports a lot from them. China becomes dependent on the West, and when the right time comes, the West will stop completely exporting, China will fall into a food crisis. Rebellion and uprising will begin, just like the end times of Song, Tang, Ming, Qing. With the weakening and collapse of the central government, neighboring and western countries began to attack China. They burn, plunder, slaughter, genocide. History will repeat itself

“If you want peace, prepare for war” ​

100% self-sufficient agriculture is the right thing to do.
 
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OppositeDay

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Peter2018 said:
How about getting Pakistan into RCEP? Pakistan and China have very good relationships.
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Pakistan is too far away from RCEP's core area (Southeast Asia). Bangladesh is next to Myanmar and India is to Bangladesh. Pakistan is on the other side of the subcontinent.
 
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KYli

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But a counterargument could be looking at how the COVID crisis is being managed. China's top down approach (scientifically driven) seems to be beating the decentralized approach.

I just don't see much of a future for small farms with 10 billion people on the planet with climate change and diseases popping up everywhere.
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I feel the reason why China beating the COVID crisis is more to do with the fact the Chinese government respects science and human lives and put them above economical and political interests. Centralized and decentralized approach is only secondary in this matter.

Even though the number of small farms in the US have been dwindling for decades, many of them still survive. Don't underestimate small farm's ability to survive. No need to destroy millions of small farms and put Chinese food security into play just to accelerate the dominate of corporate farms.
 
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ansy1968

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KYli said:
I feel the reason why China beating the COVID crisis is more to do with the fact the Chinese government respects science and human lives and put them above economical and political interests. Centralized and decentralized approach is only secondary in this matter.

Even though the number of small farms in the US have been dwindling for decades, many of them still survive. Don't underestimate small farm's ability to survive. No need to destroy millions of small farms and put Chinese food security into play just to accelerate the dominate of corporate farms.
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Hi KYli,

Cause most of them are engineers, they understand science, unlike the West most of them either lawyers, mainstream politician, businessman and now entertainers.
 
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ansy1968 said:
Hi KYli,

Cause most of them are engineers, they understand science, unlike the West most of them either lawyers, mainstream politician, businessman and now entertainers.
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Don't forget many Western politicians are tied to their religious faith that even jeopardizes and interferes with their own constitution because of religious views and dogmas. Take for example the right for women to have an abortion. Even the US Supreme Court judges are now mostly conservatives (6 out of 9).
 
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sndef888

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OppositeDay said:
Freshwater fish farms themselves could be a serious source of pollution. And they use precious land and freshwater resources. International water is open to everyone. Sea water is free. Offshore saltwater fish farming is just superior in every way.

Chinese now are more and more accepting of sea fish which usually has less bones. Chinese supermarket now all have easy to cook frozen fillets. I think fresh water fish will gradually become restaurant only dishes.
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Well, I guess I'm impractical but I just hate to see the sea dotted with farms. Where I live, the coastline is full of ships and farms and it really ruins the beauty of the sea
 
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