JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread

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pngwerume II

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Re: Zimbabwe ordered 12

Wanted to know if anybody heard of such a aircraft request before Zimbabwe ordered 12 FC1. Wanted to know if this was true or not? I thought Pakistan was the only customer, thanks

This part of the story I found and posted a link to the rest.

More recently, Robert Mugabe’s government in Zimbabwe ordered 12 FC1 fighter jets from China as well as 100 military vehicles in late 2004, China’s most advanced military aircraft order from an African nation that was worth $200 million.
According to the Commissioner of the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission, this move enraged South Africa, with many political analysts fearing that such transfers could spark an arms race in southern Africa (testimony given before House of Representatives Committee on International Relations, July 28, 2005). Previously, it was widely reported that Chinese small arms were exchanged for eight tons of Zimbabwean elephant ivory in May 20

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unknauthr

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Ramp-Up of JF-17 Production

Further confirmation on the production ramp-up for the FC-1/JF-17 fighter:
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Pakistan Air Force to Induct High-tech Aircraft Soon
By Aziz Malik ‘Pakistan Times’ Federal Bureau Chief

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Air Force would soon induct "near to high-tech" and high-tech fleet of fighter-bomber aircraft with the aim to modernize the country’s air force, said Chief of Air Staff Air Chief Marshal Tanvir Mamood Ahmed on Friday.

"We have plans to replace our ageing fleet with the fourth and fifth generation fighter-bomber aircraft till year 2015," he said while briefing newsmen regarding future plans of PAF with special regard to the manufacturing of JF-17 Thunder aircraft with the help of China, at Pakistan Aeronautical Complex Kamra.

He said the number of aircraft in the fleet would also be enhanced from existing 320 to 400.

He said PAF was finalizing to purchase high-tech J-10 type aircraft from China and initially two squadrons of this fifth generation aircraft would be inducted in the PAF.

Terming the newly manufactured aircraft JF-17 Thunder as most lethal aircraft, to be included in the inventory of PAF, he said "presently we have plans to induct 150 Thunder aircraft in the fleet and later on their number would be enhanced up to 250."

"10 to 12 squadrons of PAF would be equipped with the supersonic, lightweight and multi-role Thunder platforms," he added.

He said the aircraft was capable of carrying all types of weapons and added "JF-17 Thunder is no less than a good aircraft available in the market."

He said the plan for procurement of 18 brand new and 24 pre-used F-16 aircraft from the US was going according to its schedule. He said the renovation and upgradation of 32 other F-16 aircraft was also going as per the time frame.

He said plans were also in-hand to achieve the technology for air-to-air refueling of the aircraft and added we would attain the capability prior to the induction of JF-17 Thunder in the PAF by the next year.

He said during this year six more JF-17 aircraft would be received from China as in 2008 the serial production of the aircraft would commence. "In next three years Pakistan would be able to produce 50 % avionics and frame of the aircraft," he said.

The PAF Chief said, 15 aircraft would be manufactured in 2008 while 20 in the next year with the aim to achieve capability to manufacture 25 to 30 aircraft per year.

Answering a question, he said the provision of engine for the aircraft was being managed by China and expressed the hope that there would hardly be any influence of any third country to affect the project.

He said the engine of the aircraft was an improved version of MIG-29 aircraft of Russia and the manufacturer (Russia) has already signed an agreement with China for their uninterrupted supply for JF-17 Thunder.

He dispelled the impression that Pakistan was in any arms race and said "our arms and equipment are for peace and to maintain the peace. We have no offensive design."

In reply to a question, Air Chief Marshal Tanvir Mahmood Ahmed said JF-17 aircraft was manufactured at almost half the price of any other aircraft of fourth or fifth generation platform available in the market.

He said this aircraft (JF-17) was an outcome of the knowledge and expertise gained by Pakistani and Chinese experts by using variety of technologies during the past five decades.

He expressed the hope that in the days to come, the aircraft would capture market, due to its high performance at comparatively low cost.​
 

fishhead

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LOL, list of the 2006 Jiangxi province R&D programs, one project:

No 157, Researcg on porting F16 fire control and flight control software to Chinese combat airplanes

At the first place you need to get F16 software, don't you?
 

szbd

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LOL, list of the 2006 Jiangxi province R&D programs, one project:

No 157, Researcg on porting F16 fire control and flight control software to Chinese combat airplanes

At the first place you need to get F16 software, don't you?

Read carefully, their are 21 projects and funding is 340,000RMB, that is about $45000. Even if you already have all the softwares needed, this money is enough for the project? LOL. How did this project got approved
 

fishhead

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Read carefully, their are 21 projects and funding is 340,000RMB, that is about $45000. Even if you already have all the softwares needed, this money is enough for the project? LOL. How did this project got approved

I know, that's not the military engineering program, but rather kind of academic activity.

But the thing bizarre is, they have a public research like this about "porting F16 software", even nobody in this world are sure who can get access to that software - I know American's best friends don't have that access either.
 

szbd

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Re: New JF-17/FC-1 thread

Because they were simply making up sth to get funding. This is just a live joke.
 

kursed

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Re: New JF-17/FC-1 thread

According to this month's AFM:

1. First batch of 51 JF-17s will be equipped with Nanjing KLJ-7. This goes against what KANWA reported (JF-17s testing Wuxi Radar instead of KLJ).

2. JF-17 Test and Evalutation Unit consists of two test pilots who are also Empire Test Pilots School (QinetiQ) graduates [ones who flew the two aircrafts on March 23rd] and 2 other Pakistani test pilots who trained in China.

3. In this year, Pakistan will receive 8 production models and 1 prototype for use by the Evaluation Unit.

4. All aircrafts are delivered with Chinese avionics but Pakistan will be carrying out studies about the possibility of integrating Western avionics.
 
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fishhead

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KLJ-7 radar went into public in 2006, already said at that time may be used on JF-17.

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crobato

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Re: New JF-17/FC-1 thread

According to this month's AFM:

1. First batch of 51 JF-17s will be equipped with Nanjing KLJ-7. This goes against what KANWA reported (JF-17s testing Wuxi Radar instead of KLJ).

2. JF-17 Test and Evalutation Unit consists of two test pilots who are also Empire Test Pilots School (QinetiQ) graduates [ones who flew the two aircrafts on March 23rd] and 2 other Pakistani test pilots who trained in China.

3. In this year, Pakistan will receive 8 production models and 1 prototype for use by the Evaluation Unit.

4. All aircrafts are delivered with Chinese avionics but Pakistan will be carrying out studies about the possibility of integrating Western avionics.


KANWA also reported that radar for the JF-17 was KLJ-10. Correct or no? FI on the other hand, said KLJ-7 was for the J-10.

If KLJ-7 is for the JF-17, who is using the KLJ-6F then, which also has been displayed along with a poster? KLJ-6E is for the J-7G.

The poster is very interesting because it shows the backend to be extremely compact and packaged inside a box. Then you have all these holes possibly for fitting interfaces for diagnostics or dial readouts. In contrast, backend components tend to be large and exposed to allow for ventilation.
 
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