China's Space Program Thread II

Temstar

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According to Cute Orca:
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At stage separation:
1800m/s
60km altitude
First stage apogee: 110km

Compared to typical Falcon 9 Block 5 mission:
2200m/s
65km altitude
130km apogee

Given similar delta-V to orbit, proportionally CZ-10B's first stage is smaller than Falcon 9's first stage and vice versa for upper stage. So a bigger first stage in CZ-10C would definitely be beneficial since you are reusing it and expending the upper stage.
 

hkvaryag

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根據Cute Orca網站報導:
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在階段分離時:
1800米/秒
海拔60公里
第一階段最高點:110公里

與典型的獵鷹9號Block 5任務相比:
2200米/秒
海拔65公里
130公里最高點

在入軌速度增量相近的情況下,長徵十號乙運載火箭的第一級按比例小於獵鷹九號的第一級,而上面級則相反。因此,長徵十號丙運載火箭的第一級更大一些,對於重複使用第一級而消耗掉上面級來說,無疑是有益的。
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Tomboy

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First stage smaller??View attachment 178034
Delta V is a function of dry mass and wet mass ratio, CZ-10 is highly unoptimised compared to Falcon 9 so even if the the first stage contains a similar amount of fuel, the total delta V you can get from it is much less. Also CZ-10 uses traditional fuel tanks and hence wastes alot of space and weight compared to Falcon 9 making the problem worse.
 

GulfLander

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Delta V is a function of dry mass and wet mass ratio, CZ-10 is highly unoptimised compared to Falcon 9 so even if the the first stage contains a similar amount of fuel, the total delta V you can get from it is much less. Also CZ-10 uses traditional fuel tanks and hence wastes alot of space and weight compared to Falcon 9 making the problem worse.
are they building better versions of it?
 

Blitzo

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are they building better versions of it?

It's not abnormal for revisions and improvements to a rocket family or variant to occur over time.

So chances are as they launch and recover a few more times they'll implement minor improvements to new build rocket first stages.


You could expect CZ-10C, it is 91m high and has a 940-ton take-off weight.

Yes, though that should be considered a wholly separate variant.

CZ-10C will exist alongside CZ-10A/B.
 
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