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The WDMMA Air Power Ranking for 2026 has once again ranked the Indian Air Force above the Chinese Air Force. The top five air forces in the ranking are:
  1. U.S. Air Force
  2. Russian Air Force
  3. Indian Air Force
  4. Chinese Air Force
  5. Japanese Air Force
According to WDMMA, air power is not assessed solely on the number of aircraft. It also takes into account the quality of the aircraft and the overall composition and balance of an air force's inventory.
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According to WDMMA, the Indian Air Force is ranked above the Chinese Air Force despite having fewer aircraft because of the better quality of its aircraft and a more effective mix of platforms in its inventory. The ranking is intended to assess the overall operational readiness and effectiveness of an air force rather than simply counting the number of aircraft.

Numbers are important, but the quality, structure, and composition of an air force are equally important. A very large air force without an efficient force structure, a balanced mix of aircraft, and high-quality platforms can become more of a liability than a strength. An air force should certainly grow in size, but it should do so in a way that ensures every aircraft can be employed to its maximum potential. Only then can the advantages of a larger fleet be fully realized.

This ranking also takes into account aircraft that are on order. The Indian Air Force's order for 183 Tejas fighter aircraft has been included in the assessment.
 

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According to WDMMA, the Indian Air Force is ranked above the Chinese Air Force despite having fewer aircraft because of the better quality of its aircraft and a more effective mix of platforms in its inventory. The ranking is intended to assess the overall operational readiness and effectiveness of an air force rather than simply counting the number of aircraft.

Numbers are important, but the quality, structure, and composition of an air force are equally important. A very large air force without an efficient force structure, a balanced mix of aircraft, and high-quality platforms can become more of a liability than a strength. An air force should certainly grow in size, but it should do so in a way that ensures every aircraft can be employed to its maximum potential. Only then can the advantages of a larger fleet be fully realized.

This ranking also takes into account aircraft that are on order. The Indian Air Force's order for 183 Tejas fighter aircraft has been included in the assessment.
If their airforce performance is anything like what is presented at the (somewhat carefully choreographed) Vayu Shakti Arms Demo 2024 & 2026 and the fact that they lost badly to Pakistan in an air war.....

I can't believe you made me watch that joke of an "arms demonstration" lmao. (more like drop dumb bombs demonstration)

Alright,

Missed? Griffin LGB at 39:25

I think there was a miss at 39:40

At 43:50 it looks like they rigged it to detonate cause I didn't see and explosions near the vehicle and it detonated before the rockets arrived.

Also at 45:34 WTF was those after explosions that look like they came from underground? Did they manually blow too since the explosions are so different? The initial bomb drops don't kick up a lot of dirt while the second explosion looks like it came from underground (also according to the info they should be dropping normal 1000lbs dumb bombs.)

Bro literally missed literally everything at 47:11 from a freaking helicopter.

Again, miss at 48:22 from a rocket pod salvo, also WTF is that dispersion, I've seen videos of Su-25's lobbing these unguided rockets and they are so much more accurate. Bruz is shooting from like 1-2ks away and missing.

Literally missed everything at 48:50

Missed R-73 at 52:00

Missed dumb bombs at 54:00 Also WTF, they didn't explode?

Completely missed (missile failed) IR guided missile at 1:20:28 . LMAO cut to commercial after it missed.

2x AKASH missiles failed (1 engine failure? other just decided to go to narnia) 2:12:00


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LMAO, they use school buses as an icon for "vehicle convoy". Bruh how low budget is this? I swear it looks like they were using clip art for the illustrations.

Question, is the loitering munition used in 1:18:16 an IAI Harop?

Also WTF is up with that target drone bellowing red smoke from its engine at 1:20:02?

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I cannot believe I actually watched this embarrassing joke of a "Fire Power Demonstration". Literally 99% of it was dumb bombs or unguided missiles. They fired like 9 guided weapons (Hellfire x2 , R-73 x 2 i think, 1x MICA IR missile, 2x AKASH, 1x "Loitering Munition" and 1x SAMAR) of those weapons fired the SAMAR x1 Missed, 1x R-73 Missed, 2x AKASH failed. They also missed a bunch of unguided munitions LMAO. Also several targets clearly were rigged and blown up manually to cover up their incompetence.

Funnily enough, due to their incompetence, it was obvious to tell the difference from an explosion that came from underground (aka rigged to blow) and an actual bomb. Also They keep on not showing moments before the explosion, I suspect they are trying to cover up their misses with those cuts.

Also those commentators fellating themselves when the missiles clearly failed and the copium from the YT comments saying that "it will not hit because it is a simulation". BRUHHHHH.

Only for you seige....


As a side note the cameraman for the live feed and the camera view/scene changers are incredibly incompetent lmao. Blurry shots, cameras positioned incorrectly, poor framing, rushed intro scenes, cuts to the wrong camera, and many more mistakes.

- Dumb bombs launches
- 1:08:56 India makes a more expensive "suicide drone" by making it VTOL capable (you can see the extensions for the 4 electric motors) Also it just slams into the ground? (Commentator says that they were used in Operation Sindoor)
- 1:10:01 Cant see shit what happened here, it just cuts to the explosion of the target.
- 1:11:29 LMAO the SU-30MKI managed to miss a bomb (what model I don't know)
- 1:14:13 WTF is going on here. Commentator says "a barrage of rockets have halted the enemys armored movement" But nothing goes on in the live view. Then it cuts to an IR view of the explosion. (wanna bet its a fake?/pre recorded footage)
- 1:15:45 LCH Prachand fires more rockets, misses most of the targets with the barrage lmao. I think 3-5 missiles (of the 48 lmao) actually came close. Also I think those explosions were faked too. If you go by it frame by frame (in Youtube use the colon and period buttons on the keyboard to do so) you can see that the targets just mysteriously explode despite there being nothing exploding close enough to trigger a detonation.

Just a frame before
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Then the target explodes by itself lmao
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- 1:19:32 SU-30MKI fires an R-73 (according to commentator) the missile then proceeds to spin out of control?!? (at 1:19:46) then does a cartwheel and then misses the target drone. The commentator then calls it a "simulated fuse" when we all know the real reason lmao.
- 1:22:10 Rafale shoots down the target drone
- 1:23:40 Jaguars the old relic aircraft (enemy aircraft here) goes against a SU-30MKI (I wonder who would win?). The commentator just says "and the enemy aircraft has been hit" with nothing happening so?
1:26:30 The AKASH AA missile is supposed to fire two missiles in rapid succession (according to the commentator) at a target drone and when times comes it actually hits. (what does this mean for the two missiles that was fired last year and both missed? The jai hind commentators were claiming those were "simulated fuses" lmao) Also they just fire one missile?
1:27:34 SPYDER missile system works as intended
1:32:48 HAWK MK132 (trainer aircraft) actually hits the target (but the explosion is still manually triggered). Significantly more accurate than the rockets fired by the Prachand since a large amount are actually on or close to the target.
1:34:10 MIG-29 drops dumb bombs and they hit much wow...
1:36:00 Mirage 2000 drops more dumb bombs and they hit... much wow.... Curiously the second plane only seems to drop 3 bombs from what I can see. Did one fail to launch?

1:37:40 SU-30MKI drops 4 bombs, much wow....then at one of the frames at 1:37:54 the leftmost bomb just fails to detonate lmao.
Leftmost bomb moments before impact
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Doesn't fucking explode lmao
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Also there appears to be a delayed bomb explosion at 1:38:08 for some reason (bomb fuze failure?)
1:39:35 MI-17 fires rockets and they miss by a country mile, of course the target mysteriously explodes (this one is even more obviously faked)
Apache AH-64 firing Hellfire missiles from 2KM (according to commentator) and they hit the tank targets.

Also...

Bruh, can't even spell correctly
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1:43:37 Mi-17 fires a spike missile and hits a tank target on the left side. Mysteriously a tank explodes on the right side lmao.

1:45: SU-30MKI drops more 100kg dumb bombs and proceeds to carpet bomb the dirt lmao.

Some random uninsteresting bullshit happens after this, I'm not even going to bother

2:38:22 AKASH fires and actually hits and explodes this time.
2:54:49 more fucking incompetence from the event managers, cant see shit and they cut in late so I have no idea what happened. but hey the target explodes itself.
2:56:30 SU 30MKI drops a single? bomb and it hits? the target? The lights on the target goes out so I have no idea. But it looks like the fuze on the bomb fails since it detonates far too deep inside the ground to be effective.
2:57:44 Jaguar drops some more dumb bombs and they appear to hit
2:29:00 SU30MKI drops more dumb bombs.

Literally a dumb bomb fiesta. 2 years have passed and it is still a shitshow.
This was the state of the India's army and airforce at a rehearsed airshow and it was pathetic, imagine them in a real war where enemies can actually shoot back.
 

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[According to WDMMA, the Indian Air Force is ranked above the Chinese Air Force despite having fewer aircraft because of the better quality of its aircraft and a more effective mix of platforms in its inventory. The ranking is intended to assess the overall operational readiness and effectiveness of an air force rather than simply counting the number of aircraft.

Numbers are important, but the quality, structure, and composition of an air force are equally important. A very large air force without an efficient force structure, a balanced mix of aircraft, and high-quality platforms can become more of a liability than a strength. An air force should certainly grow in size, but it should do so in a way that ensures every aircraft can be employed to its maximum potential. Only then can the advantages of a larger fleet be fully realized.

This ranking also takes into account aircraft that are on order. The Indian Air Force's order for 183 Tejas fighter aircraft has been included in the assessment.
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At this point I’m not sure if he really is this stupid or is actually secretly a Pakistanis posting dumb shit to make the Indian military look bad.
The ranking is WDMMA's, not mine. I don't think the number of fighter jets alone should be the criterion for judging the effectiveness of an air force. The quality of platforms, interoperability, integration, the mix of aircraft, and several other factors all play an important role.

An air force is not just a collection of standalone platforms. Its ground and air assets operate as an integrated network. For example, one fighter aircraft can launch a missile while another fighter guides it to the target. Today, even AWACS aircraft can provide mid-course guidance to missiles. In addition, loyal wingman drones are being introduced to operate alongside manned fighters under the manned-unmanned teaming (MUM-T) concept. Modern air warfare has become far more complex than simply comparing the number of fighter jets in service.
 

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They are that braindead i shit you not i saw on twitter a discussion about them chimping out because of the engine deal with the americans.
Instead of making their own engine they want ToT from every other engine producing nation and yes they won't get squat but hiked up prices but they continue to delude themselves that they are in a position to demand from others.
They even wrote about getting the WS-15 from the PRC with ToT and everything so what can one say at this kind of retardation except like i wrote earlier that copious amounts of ganga river water and cow dung/urine is not good for brain development but who i am to criticize the secret recipe to surefire sucsess of the #1 "Supapawar"
 

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Well, because it's true. At a face value, Tejas mk1 has better(but not crucially) radar, ~similar intercept profile.
Mk1 doesn't get EL/L-8222 and twin ASRAAM(in fact it doesn't get ASRAAM at all apparently), so it's effectively similar or even weaker armament(i-derby v rvv-ae) and less protection (though with modern RWR).
But it is not the same as development failure, as old warhorse is obviously just more reliable and better understood.
All planes early on in their career are bitch to work with. But you can make tejas mk1a out of tejas mk1. Mig-21bis was really on its last legs.

Tejas mk1 is a live plane, which can be used operationally; at least, when you have engines(1a). Tejas MK2 is a 2030s plane; it's a new plane, sure, but at least it's a Tejas. I.e. it is low risk.
AMCA is a 2040s high risk dream. And speaking flatly, french never share core know-how, i.e. if indians will believe this - idk, they should check allegiance (and visa) of their negotiators.

I disagree. Tejas has 1 operational squadron, and Tejas mk1a are now ultimately restricted by engines; i.e. otherwise, problematic development now delivered a proper fruit.
Yes, Tejas mk1 is a 3rd rate plane(mostly courtesy of it's armament and decision to skip on derby-er and overall just be done with them). But Tejas mk1a is roughly comparable with JF-17 III, only a few years later. Which is, mildly speaking, a decent plane.
Yes, Tejas 1a is flatly weaker in air superiority, but in it's core role (GCI intercept, light strike) - it's excellent.

Engine be damned, but should they solve at least indian radar, this is a solid point. Remember that for all our laughs at air forces, as a product, JF-17 is Chengdu through and thorough, with Chinese armament, radar and Russian engine. Tejas on mk1a at least got astra, and maybe second batch will get Uttam.
Industrially, it's certainly an achievement.

Operationally, Tejas will for the first time in a decade may contain the general trend of PAF gaining and gaining strength v IAF. This is significant as well.

Overall, we laugh at India for buying their way out of trouble. But that's ultimately how growing something looks like. Through persistence, pain and laughs.

The problem with your assessment is that Mk1A is still a viable product. IMO, it is not. The engines are not going to come. The latest news of price increases to the engines may or may not be 300% accurate, but as they say, "When there's smoke...".

It doesn't matter if French will share core know-how, the purpose is not to learn about engines. The point is to actually have a plane that can fly, instead of something sitting on the Tarmac for HAL to take photos to creates posters and calendars. All of those projects, Astra, Uttam, were centered around Tejas. They need a plane to be successful.

You must also realize, when I say "failure", this doesn't mean that everything is flushed down the toilet, but rather what changes with respect to next steps. It has been my opinion for a long time now that LCA/Tejas program is the pinnacle of delusion. Putting aside the fatal crash, the Tejas display at Dubai was meant to show an alternative to JF-17 prospective buyers, but it can't even serve it's home country. If that is not delusional, then what is?
 

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The ranking is WDMMA's, not mine. I don't think the number of fighter jets alone should be the criterion for judging the effectiveness of an air force. The quality of platforms, interoperability, integration, the mix of aircraft, and several other factors all play an important role.

An air force is not just a collection of standalone platforms. Its ground and air assets operate as an integrated network. For example, one fighter aircraft can launch a missile while another fighter guides it to the target. Today, even AWACS aircraft can provide mid-course guidance to missiles. In addition, loyal wingman drones are being introduced to operate alongside manned fighters under the manned-unmanned teaming (MUM-T) concept. Modern air warfare has become far more complex than simply comparing the number of fighter jets in service.
WDMMA is clearly wrong here. Indian Air force is greatly above USAF. How dare they give India 60 some points and USAF 200+, it's saying USAF is 3x more powerful. Just that is clearly biased!! Indian Air force proved itself in sindoor and only lost 6 planes in a night while US lost so many more fighting Iran over several months. India have the most powerful air force in the world. Jai hind. How could China with no announced procurement numbers, fake 5 and 6 Gen and greater numbers of specialization aircraft be as powerful as amazing India./S
 

Anhad

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WDMMA is clearly wrong here. Indian Air force is greatly above USAF. How dare they give India 60 some points and USAF 200+, it's saying USAF is 3x more powerful. Just that is clearly biased!! Indian Air force proved itself in sindoor and only lost 6 planes in a night while US lost so many more fighting Iran over several months. India have the most powerful air force in the world. Jai hind. How could China with no announced procurement numbers, fake 5 and 6 Gen and greater numbers of specialization aircraft be as powerful as amazing India./S
Suppose there are two air forces. One has a much larger number of fighter jets, while the other has a smaller fighter fleet but a higher aircraft availability rate, more loyal wingman drones, AWACS, aerial refueling tankers, electronic warfare aircraft, and a stronger surface-to-air missile network. It also has all of these systems seamlessly integrated into a single operational framework.

Which air force do you think would be more effective, the one with more fighter jets, or the one with a better overall force structure and a more integrated combat capability?
 
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