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4Tran

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Yes, an underappreciated fact of Yuan's appreciation is that it makes imports cheaper. The Plaza Accords are a death knell because it hurts monetary sovereignty and artificially rebalances trade. Yuan's appreciation will come when it comes, and trade will likely "rebalance" for China at some point as well, but naturally. Trade frictions, rise in consumption, development of China's economy will gradually transform the economy internally.

The funny thing is that this still leaves Europe and US exporters fucked. I just don't see how they'll compete with middle economies like Vietnam, Indonesia, Mexico, or Turkey. Squeezed at the top by China and squeezed from the bottom by everybody else.
It's like how it works for addicts: they'll never get better until they admit they have a problem. Right now, the West thinks that they already have the best systems and policies in the world. So if anyone else is doing better, then that can only happen if they're cheating. Of course, the only way the West can fix itself is to make fundamental reforms to its instituions and core beliefs so that's not going to happen any time soon.
 

HighGround

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It's like how it works for addicts: they'll never get better until they admit they have a problem. Right now, the West thinks that they already have the best systems and policies in the world. So if anyone else is doing better, then that can only happen if they're cheating. Of course, the only way the West can fix itself is to make fundamental reforms to its instituions and core beliefs so that's not going to happen any time soon.
I'm American. I just don't see our government being able to make any kind of... "hard" decisions that would actually set up the country for success. There is only one thing that can force the West to make some changes that will set up the future for a better tomorrow. A horrible, painful economic depression.

Right now, there are too many fat cows on the top, and too many scared people on the bottom. With good reason too, because for all the issues in the West, it can get much worse. A slow decline is preferable to a sudden massive drop in living standards. Once that happens anyway because of a recession or a massive bubble pop... that's when big changes can be made. One of the great tragedies of 2008 is that the West didn't take collective action to really purge the rot. They had enough juice in the tank to ride it out and patch the holes.

But to relate this to China, I don't think the central government will want to appreciate the RMB right now. There are a lot of painful bumps to get over internally. There's local government debts, which have been handled, but need time to be handled gracefully. The real estate sector hasn't finished bottoming out yet, and 15th FYP just started with "unification of the internal market." However, 2030-2035 we might see the start of RMB appreciation. Which could mark the start of China's "golden age".
 

Wrought

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Would you look at that? Revealed preferences.

Citing the results of a survey of nearly 300 chamber members in January and February, Eskelund said Europe was seeing “the highest-ever share of European companies onshoring more into China”. Fifty-six per cent of respondents said they were increasing onshoring in China, while just 7 per cent said they were only increasing offshoring. That dependence was increasingly driven by cost, he said, with Chinese supply chains having become so competitive that integrating into them was often the only way to produce the best products at the lowest cost.

Eskelund said Beijing had also grown increasingly confident in its ability to push its agenda through, with “escalation dominance” – a term increasingly heard in China – encapsulating its ability to raise the costs of confrontation beyond what the other side was willing or able to bear.

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GulfLander

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seems SK investors buying CN stocks

google translated
In just 6 months, they spent a staggering $2.819 billion!

A-share purchases surged 130.55% year-on-year, with North China Electronics, Cambricon, and CATL ranking as the top three.
Among them, semiconductor equipment company Naura Technology Group topped the list of purchases with approximately US$33.94 million.

Cambrian (US$27.28 million) followed closely behind, with CATL (US$12.54 million) ranking third.
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PandaAI

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Optimized outflow rules take effect​

Legal framework aims to better facilitate, manage and safeguard overseas investment

By WANG KEJU | China Daily | Updated: 2026-07-03 08:02
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China implemented its first-ever administrative regulation on outbound investment on Wednesday, a sweeping legal framework designed to manage, facilitate and protect the country's rapidly expanding overseas direct investment while upholding national security and development interests, legal and economic experts said.


Unveiled last month by the State Council, China's Cabinet, the regulation marks a significant upgrade from the previous patchwork of departmental rules to a unified, higher-level statutory framework.


The move comes as China's overseas direct investment stock ranks among the world's largest, and as the international environment grows more complex, with rising unilateralism and protectionism. By the end of last year, China had established more than 50,000 overseas enterprises spanning 190 countries and regions, according to the Ministry of Commerce.



In 2025, outbound direct investment reached $174.38 billion, up 7.1 percent year-on-year, with the investment stock ranking among the world's top three for the ninth consecutive year, data from the ministry showed.

Yet for a long time, the primary legal basis for outbound investment consisted of fragmented departmental regulations and normative documents, low in legal rank and scattered across provisions.

"When faced with cross-border friction or interdepartmental coordination, they often fell short," the Ministry of Justice, the National Development and Reform Commission and the Ministry of Commerce said in a joint statement.

The new framework fills that gap. Han Liyu, a law professor at Renmin University of China, called it a "major reform and improvement" of China's outbound investment system and "a leap forward in outbound investment institutions"

The regulation takes a dual approach by actively encouraging and supporting outbound investment while imposing clear red lines. Investors are granted autonomy to make their own decisions, bear their own risks and assume responsibility for their profits or losses, but they must operate within the rule of law.


To streamline this process, the country will coordinate foreign affairs, legal, fiscal, financial, trade, and logistics resources into a centralized overseas service system. This includes explicitly incorporating financial institutions into the deployment framework: commercial banks are directed to provide cross-border financing on market-oriented terms, while policy insurers are encouraged to expand coverage.


Tian Yuan, a researcher at the Chinese Academy of International Trade and Economic Cooperation, called the promotion of policy-backed overseas investment insurance a "key measure" to strengthen the country's risk protection system.

Tian said that Chinese companies face uncontrollable risks such as geopolitical conflicts and exchange fluctuations, often only partially covered by commercial insurance.

"Going forward, insurance institutions can expand coverage for medium — and long-term overseas investment, covering small and medium-sized enterprises and high-tech projects, reducing operational uncertainty and boosting the willingness of real-economy companies to invest abroad," he added.



The regulation also takes aim at harmful competitive practices that have tarnished the reputation of Chinese companies overseas, including predatory pricing, theft of trade secrets and defamation of competitors.

"These behaviors have not only led to losses for individual companies but have also dragged down overseas profits for entire industries and damaged the international reputation of Chinese enterprises," said Cui Fan, professor of international trade at the University of International Business and Economics.

By explicitly prohibiting such unfair competition, the rule establishes a unified code of conduct, guiding companies away from low-price involution and toward healthy competition in technology, quality and service, Cui added.

The new regulation also strengthens China's hand against investment barriers and discriminatory restrictions.

Additionally, when Chinese investors encounter trade-related investment barriers or other operational obstacles, the Ministry of Commerce may launch investigations, adjust country-specific investment policies, or restrict imports, exports or trade in services.

"The regulation gives Chinese companies a more predictable legal environment and a stronger negotiating position when facing unfair treatment abroad," said Han Bing, an associate researcher at the Institute of World Economics and Politics at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.

It will work in tandem with existing laws, including the Anti-Foreign Sanctions Law and the regulation on industrial and supply chain security, to create a more robust mechanism to defend China's interests against discriminatory treatment and unilateral sanctions, Han added.


It's also worth noting that the regulation officially includes "individual residents" within its scope of investors.

"This should not be simply interpreted as a full opening of individual overseas investment," said Wang Qinghua, a senior partner at AllBright Law Offices in Shanghai.

While the regulation provides a principle-based recognition of individuals as overseas investors, key details such as how individuals can invest abroad, what procedures they must follow, whether approval or filing is required, and how capital outflows will be managed will have to be clarified in subsequent supporting rules, Wang said.

Until detailed rules are issued, individuals must still comply with existing foreign exchange, tax, anti-money laundering, securities and outbound investment regulations, Wang added.

He said that future individual overseas investment management is likely to focus not only on capital outflows but also on the legality of funding sources; the reasonableness of investment purposes; the transparency of offshore structures; possible round-tripping arrangements; and whether the investment involves sensitive industries, controlled technologies, cross-border data flows or attempts to evade regulation.


"For individuals, especially those setting up offshore entities, participating in overseas startup projects, buying equity in foreign companies or engaging in complex asset arrangements, it is more necessary than ever to verify the compliance path in advance," Wang said.
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Lethe

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Portable AC is in Huge demand as overall cooling products exports are skyrocketing.

Midea is fast-tracking the production of 30,000 portable air conditioners for France, with deliveries set to roll out over the next week.


On the subject of the Midea PortaSplit specifically:

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Midea’s air-conditioning design illustrates the kind of engineering tailored to crack Europe’s fragmented and layered regulatory and market barriers.

PortaSplit’s outdoor unit clips onto a window bracket, needs no drilling, and is classified as furniture rather than a fixture — sidestepping facade-modification bans in cities like Paris. Its refrigerant charge is also capped at 1.99 kilograms,
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