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Maikeru

Maikeru

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zyklon said:
Many such cases.

In fact, I dare say — perhaps due to karma — recreational drugs are even more popular in Britain's Royal Navy than the United States Navy.

Whereas USN sailors out of Yokosuka got busted for doing LSD and shrooms, which are arguably soft drugs by Western standards of the 2020s, their British counterparts are
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UK's underwater rave scene leads the world!
 
siegecrossbow

siegecrossbow

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zyklon said:
Many such cases.

In fact, I dare say — perhaps due to karma — recreational drugs are even more popular in Britain's Royal Navy than the United States Navy.

Whereas USN sailors out of Yokosuka got busted for doing LSD and shrooms, which are arguably soft drugs by Western standards of the 2020s, their British counterparts are
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Probably because extended deployment underwater is very boring.
 
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Atomicfrog

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Broccoli said:
I’m surprised that USN hasn’t looked into this kinda capabilities if they seek increased numbers.
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Common sense is out of the agenda in the US.

Remember that a freedom class is over 110m of length, they will not look smaller or a ready to buy option for sure. Money and lobby will make projects go haywire 9 time out of 10.
 
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HighGround

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Atomicfrog said:
Common sense is out of the agenda in the US.

Remember that a freedom class is over 110m of length, they will not look smaller or a ready to buy option for sure. Money and lobby will make projects go haywire 9 time out of 10.
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It wouldn't make much sense for the US Navy to buy smaller ships.

The reason why LCS ships were relatively large, is because they were designed as ocean going vessels. Yeah, they are meant to fight in littoral waters, but on the other side of the ocean.

Coastal defense is handled by the US Coast Guard and the US Navy doesn't really face any opponent worth worrying about to need a brown water combat vessel.

So a smaller corvette, while being sensible for most Navies, is actually a waste of money for the USN.
 
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4Tran

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HighGround said:
It wouldn't make much sense for the US Navy to buy smaller ships.

The reason why LCS ships were relatively large, is because they were designed as ocean going vessels. Yeah, they are meant to fight in littoral waters, but on the other side of the ocean.

Coastal defense is handled by the US Coast Guard and the US Navy doesn't really face any opponent worth worrying about to need a brown water combat vessel.

So a smaller corvette, while being sensible for most Navies, is actually a waste of money for the USN.
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And realistically the LCS were already too small to begin with. The primary need for the USN is to operate in the Western Pacific, and the LCS ships just don't have the kind of legs to keep up with carrier battlegroups. Even if you want to use just in the minesweeper role, running them from the base in Yokosuka to Taiwan is going to be a bit of a stretch.
 
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