I will withold my guesses untill I see a full armord company with the new tanks and toys, I have a feeling that PLA is willing to try somthing much more daring that would surprise us.
PLA New Gen Tanks (Type 100, new heavy MBT)
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As the Type 100 shows there’s obviously a lot of network centric warfare evolution in ground force doctrine but I expect the basic physical principles behind maneuver and line reinforcement to nonetheless remain more or less the same.
It could and have been modified onto other tanks like those type 99 on himalayas
honestly previous talk made me believe the new "heavy" tank as going to be a complete clean slate design compared to the type 100 but tis 7 wheeled tank just seems to be a modified type 100. i cant even tell if the chassis is elongated or if the road wheels are just pushed closer together to allow for the 7th
I believe this. I don't personally think this specific tank exceeds 45T in weight.
Remember the Type 100 combat weight was <35T, Hull weight <25T. This new tanks hull looks barely larger.
The T-14 Armata which is huge only weighs >50T. Not having to armor the turret saves a lot of weight.
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35t for Type 100 is just the bare vehicle, with addon armor that value is likely to reach near 40t. Addon armor for this vehicle is much thicker than Type 100's especially the front, while the base hull is also stretched while having a new turret with a large caliber gun will probably push this vehicle when fully armored to high 40s ton range.
I was assuming combat weight meant with everything included but if this not the case I believe 45-50T is still the upper limit.
Type 100 hull is stated to be 7.44m long. The new hull doesn't appear to be much longer, 7.8m long at most IMO.
T-14 Armata on the other hand is stated by UVZ to be >50T with most estimates around ~52T. T-14 is 8.7m long. Turret weight around 10-12T in weight. T-14 Armata uses a long 125mm, and this likely does too. So turret weights likely will be similar.
Basically if Type 100 tank is <25T hull weight. New tank hull is IMO at most <32T. Tank Turret ~10-12T. Addon armor 3T (VT-5 addon armor weight).
All in all added up. <32T + 12T + 3T = <47T weight.
5T lighter than T-14 Armata seems realistic no? Considering that the T-14's hull is nearly a meter longer.
This is bloody conservative too after adding 7T of hull weight for a small if at all size increase.
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While I agree with the overall weight assessment, IMO the addon armor package would be probably much heavier than 3t while the hull could be a little lighter than estimated here (High 20t range?)
I personally think a low 40t bare vehicle combat weight would be pretty reasonable and match current rumors but heavy addon armor would likely push overall weight closer to 45-48t range. Which is still ridiculously light for what it is said to be, ie 130mm/long 125mm gun, extreme frontal ballistic protection for crew while also having good side armor, 1500hp hybrid powerpack and sophisticated antidrone weaponry.
The 35ton is really the weight of the whole vehicle, the idea is basically turn everything into titanium and ceramics whenever possible thus weight reduction. Type 100 uses virtually the same tracks as Type 15 and VT5, and as the tracks are not really as wide as those for previous MBTs, you shouldn't expect anything more than 38 tons to be sensible (The heaviest modded form of VT5), as then the tank loses its mobility advantage and starts to sink in unfriendly terrain.
Ugh, do you really want to make a tank (by default, a rather disposable vehicle meant for risky use) to cost you a ton from materials alone?
Wide use of titanium tends to spiral costs in a way that can't be brought down by efficiencies of manufacturing/scale. You'll just have to pay for it, and you will run into significant trouble when you need repairs.