Trump 2.0 official thread
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You don’t seem to understand the point I’m making dude. When you are ideological you don’t tend to look at things from a rational point of view as a priority , you are guided more by emotions and ideological thought than pragmatism. Doesn’t matter whether China responded well or was able to shoulder US actions in a good way, if US leader like Trump was ideological then he will keep up the pressure and hostile actions non stop , in fact China withstanding them will even be seen as more of a challenge and aggression for them in that case and so actions will even multiply. Whether it’s successful or not will be secondary .
So ideoloy and emotions are much more different. For example don’t you think Chinese leaders today are far more pragmatic and rational in their foreign policies than say China furent the Mao era who was more driven by ideological thought and thinking of spreading communism globally?
So you should understand what I meant when I said is not guided by ideology or morals or whatever. I think he’s actually better for China as someone who can rationally pull back when he know he has hit a wall .
Trump is not ideological to anyone but himself. Much like any spoiled child, he operates on a very black and white personal philosophy of “Nice to Trump”/“Mean to Trump”. Tucker Carlson/Candace Owen used to be on the nice list because they helped him win two elections. But since they vocally oppose him on Iran/Israel policies, they are now traitors/public enemies. Even though Xi’s China has been at loggerheads with MAGA America geopolitically for the past decade and a half, they were nice to poor Trumpy when the rest of the world were actively bullying him. Therefore Trump, like most Gen Z/Gen Alpha, is in a very Chinese phase of his life and put Xi/China on the nice list, at least until his next tantrum.
why is Aus media framing it this way?
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No, Europe was very willing to go to trade and tech war with China in defense of Anglo dominance. They all did under his first term and under Biden. When Trump launched his trade war against the EU in his second term, muptiple EU leaders were begging him to be clear-headed and to attack China together. Trump refused and continued to attack Canada and Europe for no good reason at all and now Europe doesn't know what to do.
Borderline/early dementia. Normal competent people don't write things like that no matter how mad they are. If he knows that he is prone to extremely poor anger management, he sets up mechanisms with aids who proofread and edit his content before it goes out and/or implements a mandatory cooldown period between when he drafts a post and when it can be sent. I'm not saying that as the US president, he can't complain against China/Iran/Europe/Canada, etc... but he's threatening them in a way that makes people laugh at how the US president can sound so juvenile and stupid.
COVID was a chance for Trump to say, "No matter if you like me or not, we need to get through this together so I'm telling you all to listen to the guidelines of the CDC, which are the foremost authority on the matter." He could have saved so many of his followers and there'd be so far less jokes on the internet (which are just videos of the incredibly stupid and uneducated things he said) about how stupid he sounds when talking about biology, which is out of his comfort zone.
I understood exactly what you meant and my response is that it's not that impressive to not be ideological and act on basic rational instinct, which animals have. Being rational has many many levels. It's very impressive to have rational thinking at a level strong enough to program computer operating systems. It's not quite so impressive to have rational thinking at the level of, "Hurts when I touch fire. I not touch fire anymore." Trump's level is, "I attacked China, I ended up bloodied on the floor twice. I need easier targets... (which is basically everyone else in the world)." I don't think that's very impressive.
Absolutely. China's level of rationality for the last few decades has been very complex. "We need to defeat the West, but we are not powerful enough yet. The Western-made system of the world impoverishes those who are openly against them while rewarding those who support them. We cannot fight against this system yet, so we need to use this system to our advantage to grow by tricking them into thinking that we are or can be swayed to be a harmless ambitionless friend. To do this, we must put on a rather counter-intuitive act to fool them. We must use the oppertunity during this act to position ourselves within the system so that by the time that our true intent can no longer stay hidden, they will have become too dependent on us to kick us out and harm us with it." This is a very impressive level of rationality.
China will take what we are dealt. If he's rational and pulls back, we advance and take the gains on the world stage. If he is ideological and will continue to cause self-harm in a fight he cannot win, then we wreck his ship on our rocks.
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I never said that Europe was unwilling to defend the privileges of the Anglo-Saxon Empire.
Refusing to join the EU in confronting China is a sober choice made by the US after hitting a wall. Many movie scenes can give you a more vivid understanding of this scenario: when leaders realize they cannot defeat a challenger, they will not hesitate to send their henchmen to defend against the attack, then consume a few to strengthen their own forces. The EU, however, is trying to get the US to continue fighting China to the death, which clearly treats the US as a complete fool.
If there are only two fully armed people in a room, a smart person will not choose to engage in a life-or-death duel with another strong opponent. They will sit down and divide the prey in the room, and the EU and Japan are those unwilling prey.
Ancient aliens — a fantasy made real.
Trump has never had to deal with an unthinking virus, something he cannot bully with threats of litigation or buy off with bribes. All his troubles in the past were with humans that he could use his wealth or power to make the problem go away. There is also his pathological narcissism which prevents him from taking expert advice and which makes him desperate to get the limelight of attention back on himself. I truly think that is why he did his stupid thing about bleach and UV light. He was unhappy with the attention being given to Fauci and all the other medical experts so he had to insert himself into the situation to become the center of attention again even though he knows nothing about biology or virology.
His inability to admit he does not know everything about every topic was even demonstrated again recently when at an event about female fertility he claimed to be a quick study and learned everything there was worth knowing about the topic in 3-4 minutes. The claim is beyond laughable and into the realm of the pathetic. He has done similar offhand claims to knowing more about the military than generals, more about debt than economists, etc... The reasoning is the same: he cannot admit that someone knows more than him because his ego is too fragile. It is why he does so many dumb things, because psychologically he cannot accept taking advice and also changing course would mean admitting he made an error.
Trump is a classic case of Narcissistic Personality Disorder, to a level that is virtually inhuman and a caricature, as if the diagnostic criteria were written for him. He cares about nothing and no one other than himself. Other people are either tools to be used (and discarded when no longer useful), sycophants to provide attention and narcissistic supply, enemies to be destroyed (if weaker), or people for him to ingratiate himself with (if too strong to destroy, they are seen as "special" and "worthy" enough for him to associate with). Family members act as trophies, possessions, or extensions of himself. They are cared for only in the sense that one cares for one's belongings, rather than existing as truly independent beings. Narcissists also react with narcissistic rage at anyone or anything that inflicts narcissistic injury, which is basically anything or anyone that damages their self-image of themselves. That is how narcissists act and he fits the mould perfectly and to an extreme degree, because anything less than abject abasement and sycophancy triggers his rage.
Throw on likely dementia, either Alzheimer's (given the family history) or vascular dementia or some combination of the two, and he loses what little filter he had. As the frontal lobe becomes increasingly dysfunctional, a coarsening of personality develops which is why we see he also increasingly degenerates into swearing or derogatory name calling in public. Before, he could at least put on the superficial mask of civility, but he is unable to do so or maintain that mask for prolonged periods now.
The proper way to look at Trump is not as a politician with rational ideological or political goals, but a dementing geriatric malignant narcissist. Look at it from the psychiatric not political lens and his actions all make sense.
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So Trump is basically a geriatric Homelander?