New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

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Chinese market share of hybrids in Europe rose to a record 30% in March, with BYD leading the charge.

Chinese automakers made strong inroads into Europe last month as consumers rushed to buy more affordable plug-in hybrids from brands led by
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European sales of Chinese models featuring both a plug and gasoline engine soared more than four-fold in March from a year earlier, accounting for almost 30% of that part of the car market, according to researchers at
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BYD was the main driver of the ramp-up in plug-in hybrids in March, boosted by demand for models like the Seal U and Atto 2 sport utility vehicles, according to Dataforce analyst Julian Litzinger. Plug-in hybrid versions of
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’s Jaecoo and Omoda models also saw strong demand, he said.

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GulfLander

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A Ford spokesperson told Bloomberg News that no such talks have happened or are happening with any Chinese carmaker about technology sharing or platform sharing in the U.S.
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for reference the earlier wsj claim:
Ford, Geely Held Talks About Bringing Chinese Tech to America
The automakers have discussed a tie-up in Europe, but any U.S. collaboration would be politically fraught
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Michael90

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While CATL still leads in raw battery market share, BYD is on another level when it comes to execution speed. Their 2nd gen Blade Battery is already hitting a wide range of price points right from launch, with even more models coming later this year. Plus, with over 5000 ultra fast charging stations already live as of early April, BYD’s pace is simply in a different league.
Agree, but not sure how they can be so ahead yet be far behind CATL in market share. Seem CATL must be doing something right that BYD isn’t then, since if we look at it logically BYD should have almost half of the worlds market share given their dominance/supremacy in technology an even price, yet CATL is far ahead. Even in Europe CATL already has a 2 operational huge factories in Germany and Hungary supplying European car brands and they are building a third even larger one in Spain which should be put in service this coming months , which will feed European car makers even more, so their dominance will only increase not decrease .maybe as the other member said it’s because BYD is also a car maker . So it will be harder for them to gain much market share outside their own brands
 

Michael90

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Because BYD is a common enemy of China's auto industry, you can see how many car manufacturers and media blacken BYD day by day. Fairly, no one likes a company that does all the supply chain of an EV like BYD, they almost do everything by themselves. The BYD media and law department is too soft when dealing with others, and most importantly, BYD cars are mostly too ugly. If you follow the car media, you will know how BYD has been dissed by others day by day, in all directions.
Funny enough BYD gets far better positive media coverage globally than in their home country it seems(I guess the saying that no prophet is welcome in their own hometown is true for the most part lol). Explains why thy are gaining so much market share abroad while their sales in China is decreasing sharply or stagnating. I guess they will be increasing their investments and focus more overseas this coming years , since there is more profit and have far more market share to be won abroad than in China anyway(their demand outstrips their supply outside China like Stella li said recently ). Will be interesting to see , I believe they might be the first Chinese car maker (along with Chery) who will get more of their revenue overseas than locally . Won’t be surprised if that happened in future actually (looking at how fast their sales are growing abroad and the PR their cars are getting overseas ).
 
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NEV reached 60% in April

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Guess the Iran war is a blessing in disguise for Chinas auto industry. The war and blockade should continue for a few more months and gas prices should increase even more in China. That way even those old Chinese folks who are still hung/drunk on gas cars would have no choice than to try EVs for the first time . And once you try an EV you never go back again . lol
 
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Gloire_bb

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Guess the Iran war is a blessing in disguise for Chinas auto industry. The war and blow jade should continue for a few more months and gas prices should increase even more in China. That way even those old Chinese folks who are still hung/drunk on gas cars would have no choice than to try EVs for the first time . And once you try an EV you never go back again . lol
Remember that large part of China is either cold or cold and, well, large.

Densely populated regions are already quite electric. Screwing up charge in Inner Mongolia during blizzard may still be a death sentence.

Emergency SATCOM changes things somewhat, but response has to be able to reach you.

But yeah, price hike is visible.
 

drowingfish

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Guess the Iran war is a blessing in disguise for Chinas auto industry. The war and blockade should continue for a few more months and gas prices should increase even more in China. That way even those old Chinese folks who are still hung/drunk on gas cars would have no choice than to try EVs for the first time . And once you try an EV you never go back again . lol
dont think there was any disguise to the blessing. anyone can see that oil price shooting up = incentive to go electric
 
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