What we do know is that he believes himself and America are all powerful, and would not knowingly trade away all of the key interests that America has used decades of middle east policy in pursuit of.
That is an assumption. If you know he's dishonest, why would you take his words this time? Does he think America is all powerful? Does he think the US is in a position of strength? He says he does, but he's clammoring for a deal every day, losing his shit on Tweet (which is much harder than losing it in person) and he just got news that his plan to seize Iranian plutonium ended with all his aircraft blown up and in retreat. He had to cover that up by saying they rescued a pilot... with no interview, picture, or even name.
So he's telling you he's in a position of strength and says these crazy bastards need a deal with him or he'll commit genocide! But have you considered the possibility that he knows he's in a bad spot but has to paint a picture of his strength?
Iran accepted. A defeat for Iran to have accepted the ceasefire and reopened the strait.
Accepted, kept the Strait closed, and continued to bomb Kuwait and Israel. If they accepted and immediately got roasted by the US/Israel, then it's a defeat. Doesn't seem like they were defeated this time.
The most perplexing aspect of the ceasefire is why Iran suddenly became willing to negotiate.
The United States would certainly not agree to Iran's demands, nor would Iran naively believe that the United States would accept them. So what led them to this sudden consensus?
China. China told Iran to pipe down. Why would they listen? What did China tell them can be done with a ceasefire? We'll see.
Of course, this was stated by others before me. But let me repeat it again. 9th point of the purported ceasefire asserts that the USA withdraws all its military from the middle east. That won't happen, period.
LMFAO they can't step on land or they'll have an Iranian missile/drone overhead.
What could may very well happen, though, is the American and Israeli air forces get required maintenance, supplies and strike again with greater Force.
Supplies need... rare earths, right? LOL
What will very well happen is that Iran will also use this time, with Chinese cooperation to restock and increase its arsenal.
Iran has lost and pathetically calls it a victory.
There's missiles raining down on Israel now! Trump says he won a complete total victory without knowing that complete total victories don't require negotiations on the enemy's terms because they come with unconditional surrender.
They should have done a preemptive strike 2 months ago to level the situation. But I think Iranian establishment is so infiltrated by the American and Israeli Intel agencies that Iran can't make a decision which limits powers of the USA and Israel. How has the new president survived the assassinations when he was walking freely in Tehran and all others sitting, hiding in bunkers got busted? Iran has failed in counterintelligence business. Objectively speaking, Iran should have taken care of the counterintelligence affairs years ago. They didn't, so they pay a heavy price now.
That was a different Iran 2 months ago. That Iran was pathetic. This Iran is magnificent.
I am personally on the American and Israeli side.
Just say child sex offender/cannibal and genocidal side. We all understand who you mean.
So, Iranian defeat is ok with me.
Nobody asked you and nobody offered, but to stay well, be prepared to also be OK with Iranian victory and America/Israeli defeat. Of course Trump will tell you that ending the conflict with Iran charging tolls through Hormuz and nuclear program active under their mountains is a total complete victory for the US.
I just hate higher oil prices.
You're in the EU but you pissed off Russia and support the US turning the middle-east upside down? Just ride a horse LMFAO
Iran fell for it again
this was a fake deal so they can destroy lebanon then focus on iran without worrying about attacks from lebanon. and of course iran fell for it, they are finished now
US/Israel fell for it this time. Iran never stopped raining on Israel or Kuwait and the Strait is closed again.
This fake ceasefire is a disaster for Iran and its allies. Everytime Iran gets some leverage they squander it. Why China even bothered to force Iran to negotiate is baffling. Now people are blaming China. Don’t stop for fake ceasefires. Russians fell for it with Ukraine in the Minsk agreements. West simply can’t be trusted whatsoever.
What has happened that is a disaster for Iran? They never even skipped a beat in their strikes. This is exactly what the US/Israel deserve. "Ceasefire? Sure! BOOOM! Oh you meant right now, my bad, ok. BOOOMM! Oh you meant including that area? No problem, I got you. BOOOOOOOMM! Oh, can't use this ordinance either? You didn't specify!" That's how they deserve to be treated.
my rant about iran was because they didn't include lebanon in the agreement wich is the biggest betrayal possible for lebanon that gought with them until now
the tragedy that happened today was facilitated by the fake ceasefire
and the US gave greenlight to destroy lebanon even if they say otherwise
If you're so ignorant that you don't even know that it was Israel who did not follow instructions to stop attacking Lebanon, causing Iran to keep striking them, then what are you even here for? Stop talking and keep reading.
that's why i am saying that this was a fake agreement and iran fell for it again. the agreement was with the US and is can pretend that they were not included in the agreement
LMFAO if that was the plan, to break a ceasefire so hostilities resumed to pre-ceasefire levels, then they don't need to talk or even attempt the negotiation; they could just invade. The whole post doesn't even make sense; it's like a dude with diarrhea for brains is trying to spin something in his favor. Iran didn't fall for shit; they kept completely vigilant and at the first sign that Israel was violating the ceasefire, they rained on Tel Aviv just like every other day.
Best comment I've seen, from someone actually in the Gulf (Abu Dhabi):
There was never any ceasefire other than a unilateral Trump one. Iran has been attacking the gulf all day and there was no buy in from Tel Aviv.
Iran agreed to a publicity stunt off ramp for Trump from his threats of war crimes. That’s all.
THISSSS Yes, that's what I see.
