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sndef888

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That whole idea that Taiwan and HK "preserved Chinese Culture" is bullshit. The Culture they actually preserved is the Haipai from the 1920s because tradtional Chinese Culture already died during the Republican era because it was seen as backwards and CCP to some extant inherited it after 1949. My recent visit to Shaanxi really got me to question that narrative because I later learned that the Mausoleum of the Yellow Emperor was protected during the Cultural Revolution. If Mao wanted to erase traditonal Chinese culture he would have severed our connection to the ancestor of all Han people but he didn't. Plus people forget that literally every dynasty in Chinese history does a cultural revolution including the KMT.
I think it partly has to do with the fact that southern chinese, including Hong Kong, Taiwan and even Malaysian Chinese just celebrate Chinese festivals a lot more. Eg, you see mega fireworks, 游神 during Chinese New Year in all these places. They are also more likely to commemorate Qingming, and other festivals like Duanwu, Mid Autumn. And more likely to pray to Jade Emperor and other Chinese deities.

That's why there's the misconception that Taiwan and HK "preserved Chinese Culture". When it's actually more of a north-south divide. Now, I do wish all these festivals and celebrations start to gain more traction in the north.
 

supersnoop

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I want Xavier from Naval News to comment on this situation. Seems to be his area of expertise.

I think you can make the argument that the damage control did its job. If something burned for hours without spreading uncontrollably (like Bonhomme Richard) and no major casualties, then that is possibly a win.

The real question (IMO), is whether a simple "dryer vent fire" would cause this kind of damage. This extended deployment has already caused morale issues and crew sabotaging the already problematic toilet system with things like ropes and T-Shirts. Was this a "dryer vent fire" or a "multiple dryer vent fire with gasoline soaked T-shirts"?
 

A potato

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I think it partly has to do with the fact that southern chinese, including Hong Kong, Taiwan and even Malaysian Chinese just celebrate Chinese festivals a lot more. Eg, you see mega fireworks, 游神 during Chinese New Year in all these places. They are also more likely to commemorate Qingming, and other festivals like Duanwu, Mid Autumn. And more likely to pray to Jade Emperor and other Chinese deities.

That's why there's the misconception that Taiwan and HK "preserved Chinese Culture". When it's actually more of a north-south divide. Now, I do wish all these festivals and celebrations start to gain more traction in the north.
Shaanxi, Shanxi and Henan are practically a drop in the bucket compared to Southern Chinese in the diaspora despite being the birth place of Chinese culture. Also the holidays you mentioned: Qingmin, Duanwu and Mid Autumn aren't celebrated just in the south but all over the country. Only 游神 is a uniquly southern thing.


But I think the east and west makes more sense than the north and south because the North and South coastal regions aren't really different then each other. Afterall Beijingers are northerners and Shanghainese are southerners yet their both equally insuffereable people.

The Qipao is worn commenely worn in eastern China as it originated there. If you go the west like Shaanxi you will rarely see the Qipao as the Hanfu is legit more commonenly worn especially since the Hanfu revival started in the west (Henan).

Even in terms of Nationalism this applies as the east are pretty much cucks while in the west people are very Nationalistic (Wuhan is the exception). Afterall Dailan which is in the North is infamous for being the most Japan friendly city in the mainland aka they worship Japan because they were colonized by Japan.
 

tokenanalyst

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LMAO the dude talks like is the greatest whistleblower in history that liberated the Aliens in area 51. That is something that was in plain sight, the Zionists and tech bro billionaires that control the media and the US government, the Evangelical Christian Zionist Apocalyptic death cult that want to build their temple in Jerusalem out the bone and rotten flesh of every single Arab and muslim in the region and the Jewish Zionist death cult that want to build their God given Israeli empire using the bones of millions of Arabs as the foundation. There is no secret about that, every single of those stooges lobby for this war. The second Trump administration was voted into power for the Greater Israel project. All the negotiations about the nuclear program and missiles was a clown show to convince the US public for this war.
 

supersnoop

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Andrew Tate already did.
Offer up 2 rapists Tate brothers for 1 rapist Nathan Law. UK can paint it as a win, 2 for 1!

Guess those guys are gonna come back crawling to HK or Singapore now.

No wonder HK is called 福地. Seems no matter how bad stuff is around the world, somehow things always come back to it.
Having this discussion with others before, was Dubai really ever going to be an Asian financial center? It was kind of doubtful. The center of Asia is obviously China, and why would they abandon HK. Even if you wanted to be outside of PRC, then Singapore is both geographically and culturally closer (Chinese majority population). At best it was just an outlet for Gulf money.
 

siegecrossbow

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For a time, I also believed that Taiwan had preserved traditional Chinese culture. However, after learning a little more about Taiwan's current situation, my conclusion is that Taiwan has truly "discarded the essence and kept the dross."

In order to cater to so-called international recognition, they have indiscriminately absorbed all subcultures, especially the currently popular 'LGBTQ+' culture.
If by traditional values you meant superstition, prostitution, and strict social hierarchy then you are god damn right.
 

Puss in Boots

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If by traditional values you meant superstition, prostitution, and strict social hierarchy then you are god damn right.
The negative aspects of Chinese culture have been almost entirely preserved in Taiwan.

The Cultural Revolution certainly had immense destructive power, but it also killed off most of the necrotic tissues, much like radiotherapy. Those areas of Chinese civilization that did not experience this process were not so 'lucky'.
Plus people forget that literally every dynasty in Chinese history does a cultural revolution including the KMT.
The KMT's White Terror was merely a movement to eliminate dissidents; it is not worthy of being compared to the Cultural Revolution.
 

A potato

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The negative aspects of Chinese culture have been almost entirely preserved in Taiwan.

The Cultural Revolution certainly had immense destructive power, but it also killed off most of the necrotic tissues, much like radiotherapy. Those areas of Chinese civilization that did not experience this process were not so 'lucky'.

The KMT's White Terror was merely a movement to eliminate dissidents; it is not worthy of being compared to the Cultural Revolution.
I mean early republican aka 1920s when they tried to replace Chinese Culture with a western
one. Plus prostitution mainly originated during the 1920s especially in the concessions where it was rampent.
 

Puss in Boots

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I mean early republican aka 1920s when they tried to replace Chinese Culture with a western
one. Plus prostitution mainly originated during the 1920s especially in the concessions where it was rampent.
The KMT was never a mature progressive party from beginning to end. Its ten years in the Republic of China were unremarkable; it merely pushed the people from one abyss to another. I prefer to compare the Republic of China era with the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms period.
 
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