2026 Israel - Iranian conflict [TEMP LOCKED]

Will Iran-Israel conflict start again?


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tamsen_ikard

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I remember you were saying the same thing during Syria conflict until the last minute Assad fell . lol
Same with Hezbollah at the start of the first war a year ago, but we saw the result of how Hezbollah has been greatly weakened since then . I remember how people were claiming how invincible Hezbollah was and how they had thousands of missiles ready to go at Israel and how they can raze Israel to the ground if ISEAEL dared attack them. Same with Iran , in fact I can’t count thy number of times I heard people saying how great annd powerful Iran was and how Israel and the US will never dare touch Irans territory, since if they ever dared then Iran has tens of thousands of ballistic misled ready to level to the ground Israel an US military forces . lol Old boy, how they were proven wrong . That’s the thing with propaganda , it makes people to start believing in fallacies and make them make strategic mistakes
Every thing people said about Hezbollah was true then and is true now. Hezbollah had enormous military power and potential. They had thousands of missiles and thousands of fighters. But after the pager strikes and Nasarallah's death, Hezbollah decided to sue for peace to not fight an all out war. They focused on reconsolidation.

Its Israeli and western propaganda that Hezbollah was somehow defeated and destroyed.

Again, peace is seen as weakness. Now Hezbollah has taken the right decision to double team against Israel with Iran.
 

Serb

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I remember you were saying the same thing during Syria conflict until the last minute Assad fell . lol

I was not posting when Assad fell, and frankly, what does that have to do with anything?

Same with Hezbollah at the start of the first war a year ago, but we saw the result of how Hezbollah has been greatly weakened since then

That's the key. It "weakened" only in your imagination.

Otherwise, it couldn't have magically strengthened so much in just a few months.

Same with Iran , in fact I can’t count thy number of times I heard people saying how great annd powerful Iran was and how Israel and the US will never dare touch Irans territory, since if they ever dared then Iran has tens of thousands of ballistic misled ready to level to the ground Israel an US military forces .

That is literally happening right now. They attacked Israel, and they paid a historic price.

America is driven out of the Gulf, and parts of "Israel" are slowly being turned into Gaza.
 

latenlazy

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The cost will immediately be passed on to consumers, the shipping companies WI make a killing as well. Unlike the Bab-el-Mandeb, you can't go around Hormuz, so the only realistic way to truly shut it down is by hitting all ships (or at least all ships of a specific type, e.g. VLCCs). The risk can't just be elevated, it needs to be unacceptable regardless of any realistic sum of money.
In times like these we will get to see the true “value” of a state owned merchant fleet in a centrally managed socialist economy.
 

Michael90

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False, Iran is already under 100% of Western sanctions
Which is why I said Israel wants to keep it that way for as long as he Islamic state of Iran is in place with her polices towards them . Ever asked yourself why Netanyahu/Israel was so against/worried about the 2015 US brokered Iran nuclear deal which started lifting sanctions and isolation of Iran?
Ever wondered why he did everything they could to torpedoed that deal and all the pressure they put on Trump to cancel it?
Israel aims is to keep Iran under severe sanction and isolation and prevent the country from ever really opening up and integrating the worlds trade/financial system and ushering a new growth and prosperity stage for Iran since Iran has probably the most potential in the middle east( vast natural resources , vast territory ,fairly large population/market , very well educated and skilled workforce /youths). In short Iran has everything to be among the most prosperous countries on earth. It’s just that they were unfortunate to have bad leaders who made a lot of strategic mistakes. Reason I said for middle powers it’s very important to have shrewd and smart leaders who are neither ideological or rigid. Big powers like the US, China, Russia can afford to have mediocre leaders sometimes and that won’t affect them as much giving their depth/power/size, but for small or middle powers , having a mediocre leaders with poor judgments can have far reaching consequences for the country to be honest .
 
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TPenglake

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This is where you are mistaken. I don’t think Israel has any illusions it can achieve regime change in Iran through air power alone. They know the limitations of such actions without boots on the ground . So logically their main aim is to destroy much of Irans ballistic missiles capabilities that can threaten Israel, reduce Irans industrial and military capabilities , reduce their security capabilities (reasons for the bombings of security agencies/police stations etc), create divisions within the regime, and most of all isolate Iran even more from her neighbours and the world .
Okay my mistake that I intrepreted your original meaning that Israel basically wants to commit a bombing holocaust on Iran. But the point stands and I would double down even more on my original stance. Unless you occupy the country, Iran will just rebuild all those capabilities once the war ends. You're acting as if being a superpower means you have the infinite ability to just bomb. Bombs cost money, they require materials to manfacture, the manufactering itself costs money, flying repeated sorties will subject your jets to wear and tear and fatigue your pilots, and then you will be required to manufacture more jets which requires more materials. Initiating war requires some justification, which this one kind of did with the protests being the cassus belli, so even Israel just can't initiate a bombing campaign because it smells that Iran manufactered a single ballistic missile. Long story short, unless the US and Israel commit to an occupation of Iran, bombing whatever strategic assets they're doing now, will only have temporary effects.
The last point is the most crucial one actually. Ideally Israel wants Iran to remain under severe sanctions and isolation . That’s the reason they have pushed for this military intervention against Iran so they can radicalize the regime even more and make any negotiations between Iran and the US/West/Aran states impossible, thereby isolating Iran and tightening the sanctions over Iran even more, thereby weakening the country economically and industrially even more . They don’t want Iran to become a normal country open to the world and intergrated within the world’s financial and economic system like most countries. That will be failure for them if Iran can achieve that and return to growth, investments , trade with all the potential Iran has , as far as the current regime remains in place as a hostile actor under the mullah regime who wants their destruction anyway, they will do everything in their power to sabotage them and maintain Iran current isolation and sanctions. So this military actions serves that purpose since it will only radicalize the regime even more (we have already seen the new supreme leader replacement being his son who is even more radical than the dad), so any negotiations and lifting of sanctions is even more far fetched which suits Israel very well.
Okay, so in this scenario Iran becomes a new North Korea. And what did North Korea despite its isolation manage to do?
I think people should often take a step back and analyse things more rationally and level headedly than just jumping in with emotions and their own personal bias which stops them from looking at things from a wider perspective. Israel so far has played their cards right actually , we can see even in Lebanon how weak and isolated Hezbollah has become , if you follow news you would have heard that the Lebanese government has taken the unprecedented step of outlawing Hezbollah armed wing and forbidden any Iranian military forces from Lebanese territory , this are things that would have been unthinkable even just 3 years ago , this all due to how unpopular hezbollahs actions has become in Lebanon especially their decision to enter the Syrian civil war and then drag Lebanon into war with Israel over Gaza, then again recently yet again over Iran being attacked . Their actions have caused huge anger in Lebanon , many now see them as merely an Iranian group in Lebanon and not a Lebanese group who prioritizes Lebanese interests . I speak fluent French so I often follow Lebanese tv stations. This is a huge change from just a few years ago. So things have avenged a lot in the region due to Israel’s actions this past 2 years .
Saying is one thing, doing is another. The Lebanese government already ordered Hezbollah to surrender their weapons last year and yet here we are in the current situation, so what does that tell you? Despite the battering Hezbollah took in the last war, you'd expect Israel to blitzkrieg what's left of them easily and yet Hezbollah is still putting up a fight. What does that tell you?
 

lube

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I remember you were saying the same thing during Syria conflict until the last minute Assad fell . lol
Same with Hezbollah at the start of the first war a year ago, but we saw the result of how Hezbollah has been greatly weakened since then . I remember how people were claiming how invincible Hezbollah was and how they had thousands of missiles ready to go at Israel and how they can raze Israel to the ground if ISEAEL dared attack them. Same with Iran , in fact I can’t count the number of times I heard people saying how great and powerful Iran was and how Israel and the US will never dare touch Irans territory, since if they ever dared then Iran has tens of thousands of ballistic missiles and technology ready to level to the ground Israel an US military forces . lol Old boy, how they were proven wrong . That’s the thing with propaganda , it makes people to start believing in fallacies and make them make strategic mistakes

Got to say that if you looked online, you'd think Hezbollah was decimated and on life support. Israelis thought their pager attacks and airstrikes are decisive, not a temporary setback, that's why they're shocked there's any tough resistance at all.

Hezbollah still has tens of thousands of fighters and rebuilt their war preparedness since the ceasefire.

They're still heavily embedded in Lebanon, all the Hasbara propaganda of Lebanese outlawing Hezbollah are treated with mockery by the Lebanese themselves. And people are hoping they'll all be arrested in the current circumstances?
 

bagi

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I remember you were saying the same thing during Syria conflict until the last minute Assad fell . lol
Same with Hezbollah at the start of the first war a year ago, but we saw the result of how Hezbollah has been greatly weakened since then . I remember how people were claiming how invincible Hezbollah was and how they had thousands of missiles ready to go at Israel and how they can raze Israel to the ground if ISEAEL dared attack them. Same with Iran , in fact I can’t count the number of times I heard people saying how great and powerful Iran was and how Israel and the US will never dare touch Irans territory, since if they ever dared then Iran has tens of thousands of ballistic missiles and technology ready to level to the ground Israel an US military forces . lol Old boy, how they were proven wrong . That’s the thing with propaganda , it makes people to start believing in fallacies and make them make strategic mistakes
both were not defeated and the us is being pushed back. terror bombing and terrorism are not success. but then you say others are ideologically influenced and "propaganda" due to not following western dogmatic tautologies on war? we could say your convictions are propaganda too. i wont. i will say its polemicism. to me it is qualitatively worse.
 

gaussgun

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Guy spoke too much. "Israel helping us against Pakistan .. [we] seek permission from Israel to import Russian fuel (wtf?)"

God I dont understand indian generals at all, Modi was already getting roasted for being 'allowed' to buy russian oil, now this.
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We really should be checking our biases at the door, this one was quite obvious with bad text-to-speech. There's going to be a lot of disinformation out there in the next few weeks.
 

iewgnem

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I remember you were saying the same thing during Syria conflict until the last minute Assad fell . lol
Same with Hezbollah at the start of the first war a year ago, but we saw the result of how Hezbollah has been greatly weakened since then . I remember how people were claiming how invincible Hezbollah was and how they had thousands of missiles ready to go at Israel and how they can raze Israel to the ground if ISEAEL dared attack them. Same with Iran , in fact I can’t count the number of times I heard people saying how great and powerful Iran was and how Israel and the US will never dare touch Irans territory, since if they ever dared then Iran has tens of thousands of ballistic missiles and technology ready to level to the ground Israel an US military forces . lol Old boy, how they were proven wrong . That’s the thing with propaganda , it makes people to start believing in fallacies and make them make strategic mistakes
Speaking of which, what happened to American bases in the ME? lol

Saying someone would never dare jumping into a volcano does not imply the physical impossibility of it, if the person did jump in, that only proves the person making the statement over-estimated the person's intelligence.
 
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