2026 Israel - Iranian conflict [TEMP LOCKED]

Will Iran-Israel conflict start again?


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Aval

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The timing of this war is extremely dangerous to the entire region. It was perhaps only in this decade that replacing fossil fuels wholesale has become a feasible future, thanks primarily to the technical maturity and mass-scale production of alternative energy infrastructure. This includes not just inputs like solar and nuclear (potentially even fusion), but also outputs like EVs, 24/7 automated factories, and compute datacentres. I don't think I have to elaborate on which nation is at the forefront of these efforts.

Centerpiece to this drive is resilience against disruption, with not being affected by political instability in other regions of the world being seen akin to a form of energy sovereignty. A concept Europe and India is about to learn first-hand.

For the people of the region, I believe the gravest news are the strikes on Gulf energy infrastructure, American executive proclamations of "taking their oil", and the strangling of the Hormuz energy throat. Even with a lack of a physical blockade, the repeated strikes and threats of strikes has made energy infrastructure uninvestable and alternative energy methods much more attractive.

The once-in-history opportunity of Middle Eastern nations to skip industrialisation and the whole-of-society changes it necessitates is rapidly passing. The only reason such feudal kingdoms and archaic societies have survived into our modern world, let alone be tolerated by modern global discourse, is crumbling before our eyes.

If the war is not resolved soon, the whole region will fail to transition away from fossil fuel economies before they become obsolete, leaving all nations stuck in a pre-industrial state and of no value to the global economy. Within decades all that has been built here would return to the sands. I believe the GCC nations are aware of this, which makes Iran's ultimatum urgent. The IRGC will not allow their fossil fuel economies to resume until and unless the US is driven from GCC territories, so now they are under the pressure of time to act. Even 6 months of war could pause oil and natural gas flow for half a decade or more, as only peace will invite the investment needed to keep the oil flowing and the economy transitioning to services.
 

TPenglake

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Since I don’t think their main objective is regime change (though it will be a good thing for them if they could ) , their main objective is to destroy Irans ability to pose a significant military threat for Israel by destroying Ira’s ballistic missile capabilities, military industries , security establishment facilities , top leaderships and nuclear capacity if possible, and set a precedent where they can keep “cutting the grass “ often from time to time by bobbing Irans faculties if they grow threatening enough again in future.
Regime change is the preferrable option because a leader that will follow your interests and a population that is sympathetic to your values is the best way to ensure long term reduction of hostilities. That's why Israelis still delude themselves in the the view that Iran is some kind of cultured Persian ethnostate that hates Islam and is awaiting the return of the king in Pahlavi.

You and others on here are not being serious if you think the US and Israel can just "terror bomb" Iran until its more destitute than Afghanistan. Do you even know what that will entail? It will mean multi month long run with billions of dollars worth of bombs reducing every city in Iran, every UNESCO heritage site that is the pride of the Iranian people, to rubble and killing upwards to 10s of millions. (Bombs mind you that require rare earths to manufacture and which the US would prefer to save in a future war with China.) That is basically genocide, which would invite a very strong international response. There is no instance in history of terror bombing on its own actually getting a population surrender, or nevermind history there's two modern day examples in Ukraine and Gaza.

The simple fact is that unless the US plans to occupy Iran, the result as always, will be once the bombing campaigns are finished Iran through the destruction will still be a sovereign nation. It will still be a populated country and it will become a country that will hates Israel and the West's guts for generations. Their people will rebuild with the help of China and actually work towards making more capable defences and of course a nuclear deterrent to ward off any future Israeli or American attack. Thus as always with Israel, whatever short term security they buy for themselves through brutality, ensures the existence of a future threat and peace being ever more elusive.
 
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manqiangrexue

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It is not as simple as past failure determines future, than the systemic cause it originated from. We see the Iranian military performing well, but is sabotaged by poor civilian leader decisions. This is the past and still happen today when the president signaled to stop attacking GCC countries. The difference is this time military disregarded that decision and went their own announcements. Time will tell how much IRGC will defy the treasonous civilian leaders. And if they can defy the president, can they also defy the new supreme leader if he is a traitor?
That's a lot of questions of what can happen if this or that happens. Right now, we see Iran fighting like it has never done before. That gives me a lot of optimism. What exactly is your purpose in asking me what if the next supreme leader is weaker than the last or a Mossad plant? If the question is what would happen to Iran if they kept electing idiots or Mossad plants, then obviously the answer is that Iran is going to fail. That's the same answer for every country that keeps making mistakes. What is the point of the question?
 
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