2026 Israel - Iranian conflict [TEMP LOCKED]

[Anlsvrthng]

Isn't this how the US always operates? Absolute destruction of critical infrastructure? From the Gulf War:



The more freedom to operate over Iran, the more the strikes will turn to crippling the nation. I believe modern US military planning always requires maximalist objectives. I suspect that the level of destruction to Iranian infrastructure will look similar to that one quoted from Iraq in the Gulf War above.

They want to destabilise the country by killing as much civilian as possible

There is not enought capacity, so they do it inirectly.


What do you think, what was the reason of the development of nukes in the usa?
To kil more civs faster.

 

[tokenanalyst]

The most powerful military IN HISTORY ladies and gentlemen. Reduce to a mercenary army.

 

[Michael90]

Alienating? These Gulf countries need to be utterly destroyed from Iranian perspective for allying with US. I don't think it is in Iran's interent to let these gulf countries get wealthy with oil money Iran suffers sanctions and frequent attacks from US and Israel.

Its time to change the face of the region. Which means complete ejection of US along with making US vassals poor. If they make those gulf countries poor, there is a strong chance that the people there will rise up and throw out the monarchies. Regime change tit for tat.

Of course alienate. Many gulf Arab countries like Qatar, Oman etc had very good relations with Iran and had even been trying for years to mediate and get sanctions off Iran. But now that Iran has been attacking (irrespective of if their reason is right or wrong matters little) their infrastructure, oil and port facilities etc with even casualties this countries will start seeing Iran in a new light as a hostile actor in the region which is exactly what Israel wants and what Israel has been claiming by trying to convince this countries for a long time that Iranian regime is a threat to the region . So this plays and favors Israel completely .

Moreover ,you are talking about how Iran has been sanctioned isolated and impoverished with this sanctions and isolation and how gulf Arab countries have prospered as if its gulf Arab states problem . lol Iranian Islamists leaders made their own choices and policies . You are free to make your decisions and policies but can’t be mad at the consequences of your very own decisions and act jealous and mad at others who made different decisions dude. lol Everyone is free to make their choices in life and so they should be ready to shoulder the responsibilities of their choices .
so acting like Arab/Gulf states /Turkey are at fault for Irans current condition is a fallacy . These countries are focused on their national interests, business, growing their economy, trade, and enriching their people and making their life’s better, which should be the priority of every government, and so far they have done spectacularly well at that. As Deng xiaoping once said: it doesn’t matter whether the cat is black or white as long as it catches the mice” . Couldn’t have said it any better .
you don’t have to be too ideological in life as a leader of a country . Have to be pragmatic and laser focused in doing everything possible to achieve your objectives and make your country prosper .
In this regard Gulf Arab states have done far better than Iran . Their leaders have been very shrewd and smart to be honest. It’s crazy to think they all have far better relations and economic ties with Russia/China US/India/West than Iran . This explains why no country is even coming forward to help them, they are isolated. This shows Iranian leaders have failed spectacularly in their foreign policy to be honest

 

[Proton]

Isn't this how the US always operates? Absolute destruction of critical infrastructure? From the Gulf War:



The more freedom to operate over Iran, the more the strikes will turn to crippling the nation. I believe modern US military planning always requires maximalist objectives. I suspect that the level of destruction to Iranian infrastructure will look similar to that one quoted from Iraq in the Gulf War above.

If you compare countries though, Iraq had something like 29 TWh of electricity production in 1990 and a total primary energy usage of 240TWh.
Those numbers for Iran are 395/3590TWh for 2024, quite comparable to Germany.

So there's nearly 15 times as much energy capacity to bomb. Meanwhile Iraq bounced back quite fast, implying much of the damage wasn't Irreparable. Also it seems likely the US military capacity is lower at this point, and with a lot of aerial resources also being diverted to hunt down drones and further trying to degrade Irans military capabilities. Plus all other potential targets.

No idea how resilient Iran will prove to be though, maybe it will seek a peace when the pain gets real?

 

[manqiangrexue]

Of course alienate. Many gulf Arab countries like Qatar, Oman etc had very good relations with Iran and had even been trying to mediate and get sanctions off Iran. But now that Iran has been attacking their infrastructure, oil and port facilities etc this country will stay seeing Iran in a new light as a hostile actor in the region which is exactly why Israel wants and what Israel has been claiming by trying to convince this countries for a long time . So this plays and favors Israel completely .
moroever you are talking about how Iran has been sanctioned isolated and impoverished with this sanctions and isolation and how gulf Arab countries have prospered as if its gulf Arab states problem . lol Iranian Islamists leaders made their own choices and policies . You are free to make your decisions and policies but can’t be mad at the consequences of your very own decisions and act jealous and mad at others who made different decisions dude. lol Everyone is free to make their choices in life and so they should be ready to shoulder the responsibilities of their choices .
so acting like Arab/Gulf states are at fault for Irans current condition is a fallacy . These countries are focused on their national interests, business, growing their economy, trade, and enriching their people and making their life’s better, which should be the priority of every government, and so far they have done spectacularly well at that. As Deng xiaoping once said: it doesn’t matter whether the cat is black or white as long as it catches the mice” . Couldn’t have said it any better .
you don’t have to be too ideological in life as a leader of a country . Have to be pragmatic and laser focused in doing everything possible to achieve your objectives and make your country prosper . In this regard Gulf Arab states have done far better than Iran . Their leaders have been very shrewd and smart to be honest. It’s crazy to think they all have far better relations and economic ties with Russia/China US/India/West than Iran . This explains why no country is even coming forward to help them, they are isolated. This shows Iranian leaders have failed spectacularly in their foreign policy to be honest

If Israel wanted to reduce the Iranian threat to itself, it really really should NOT have killed the 86 year old man whose Fatwa prevented Iran from seeking nuclear weapons for decades. If they can't regime change Iran, and it really doesn't look like they have a coherent plan for that, now the new Iran that rises from this conflict will be determined to make the nuke, as they should. Killing old leaders that were corrupt and Mossad-inflitrated to replace them with extremely determined hardliners was a really bad idea.

 

[Serb]

Of course alienate. Many gulf Arab countries like Qatar, Oman etc had very good relations with Iran and had even been trying for years to mediate and get sanctions off Iran. But now that Iran has been attacking (irrespective of if their reason is right or wrong matters little) their infrastructure, oil and port facilities etc with even casualties this countries will start seeing Iran in a new light as a hostile actor in the region which is exactly what Israel wants and what Israel has been claiming by trying to convince this countries for a long time that Iranian regime is a threat to the region . So this plays and favors Israel completely .

Moreover ,you are talking about how Iran has been sanctioned isolated and impoverished with this sanctions and isolation and how gulf Arab countries have prospered as if its gulf Arab states problem . lol Iranian Islamists leaders made their own choices and policies . You are free to make your decisions and policies but can’t be mad at the consequences of your very own decisions and act jealous and mad at others who made different decisions dude. lol Everyone is free to make their choices in life and so they should be ready to shoulder the responsibilities of their choices .
so acting like Arab/Gulf states /Turkey are at fault for Irans current condition is a fallacy . These countries are focused on their national interests, business, growing their economy, trade, and enriching their people and making their life’s better, which should be the priority of every government, and so far they have done spectacularly well at that. As Deng xiaoping once said: it doesn’t matter whether the cat is black or white as long as it catches the mice” . Couldn’t have said it any better .
you don’t have to be too ideological in life as a leader of a country . Have to be pragmatic and laser focused in doing everything possible to achieve your objectives and make your country prosper .
In this regard Gulf Arab states have done far better than Iran . Their leaders have been very shrewd and smart to be honest. It’s crazy to think they all have far better relations and economic ties with Russia/China US/India/West than Iran . This explains why no country is even coming forward to help them, they are isolated. This shows Iranian leaders have failed spectacularly in their foreign policy to be honest

Your entire perception is wrong. Those GCC countries fundamentally will always be inferior to Iran, civilizationally, geographically, etc.

This is why they invested so much in getting all those American military bases on their soil, which now turned out to be completely useless.

Those bases are sitting ducks, just like these GCC countries themselves.

It's just that they believed that they didn't have to subordinate themselves to Iran, a regional power, by subordinating to the US, a distant superpower, that could always protect them. That turned out to be completely false.

From now on, not only will these GCC countries (if they survive) be much more respectful toward Iran, in all kinds of ways, but they also might have to formally distance themselves from the US (if the US fails to cripple Iran).

 

[Chevalier]

if Iran has really captured US soldiers, chances are high they are SPECOPs operators sent in to take out air defences and conduct sabotage ahead of any Kurdish Azeri Iraqi incursion.

At this stage of the war, they wouldn’t be run of the mill troops, they’d be specialists.

 

[AlexYe]

All of this depends on who backs down first in the fight,

1) If Trump is prepared for long land war with Iran, he can get congress to declare 'official' war, midterms delayed, he will want to drag this out via land invasion. If its reaches that point US empire is done.
2) They find some excuse some off-ramp and try to get off, but Israel wont let them go at all this time, The latest epstein file batch with mention trump and 13-15 yr girl is timed.
3) If they only keep doing bombings and just over the weeks n months aim to destroy society and also create a refuge crisis well...

IRGC PR has given straight warning to Azerbaijan

Azerbaijan must immediately expel the Zionists and their assets from their soil, or they will become targets for the Iranian Armed Forces

Lmao, the guy doing the press briefing has learned some hebrew and SPOKE hebrew to address israelis.

Ali Larijani:

Two regional countries have claimed they won't allow their territory to be used for US bombardments against Iran. While we doubt their commitment, Iran will not target them if they keep their word.

He’s likely referring to Turkiye & Azerbaijan.

Refinery in Haifa was hit! Israel claimed it fell in the open field.


Iran also hit Kuwaiti fuel tanks at their airport via drones.
Its a very tit for tat going on

 

[Serb]

if Iran has really captured US soldiers, chances are high they are SPECOPs operators sent in to take out air defences and conduct sabotage ahead of any Kurdish Azeri Iraqi incursion.

At this stage of the war, they wouldn’t be run of the mill troops, they’d be specialists.

I have read that Iraqi Kurds won't participate, and it was actually Syrian Kurds that were planned, a few hundred of them, but Iran already struck them down.

Azerbaijan on the other hand, could play a role, and as everything else fails, I understand why the West would be so desperate to use them as cannon fodder.

 

[AlexYe]

New York Times from officials: It turned out that the first strike on Iran killed figures that the White House considered more willing to negotiate.

Khomeini took em with him

meanwhile London:

I have read that Iraqi Kurds won't participate, and it was actually Syrian Kurds that were planned, a few hundred of them, but Iran already struck them down.

Iraqi kurds arent 1 big group either, some have said they wont, some prob will.

Reports from iraq today was that us/israel planes bombed areas near the iraq-iran border.