Trump 2.0 official thread

sheogorath

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Theory 1: DoJ is releasing more epstein files for distraction from the failing Iran conflict
Theory 2: Bibi is pushing Trump for further involvement

So what do you guys think?

Start a war to distract people from the files then release the files anyway to distract people from failing war you started to distract them from the files...

Being generous, they might be aiming for information overload. Being reaaaally generous...
 

Serb

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Trump's new "message" (second below).





Yeah, the more he spirals like this, the more you know how bad it is going in reality versus the imagination he had in his mind.



And idk, how can you see this kind of clownish medium of communication, form, language, from the supposed "leader" of a country,


And put this meme of a country in the same league as China in anything? No, it's not crazy to think they are collapsing and inferior.
 

NorthKimBestKim

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Trump's new "message" (second below).






And idk, how can you see this kind of clownish medium of communication, form, language, from the supposed "leader" of a country,


And put this meme of a country in the same league as China in anything? No, it's not crazy to think they are collapsing and inferior.
Even though I agree that he is a clown, actually a racist, fascist clown that likes to touch pre-teen girls, if I might add, the U.S. Empire should never be underestimated.
I have been hearing this "U.S. is collapsing" for far too long, and I never believed in it, because I have seen how the Empire is taking one country after the another and decimates them without any mercy.

Lets start with SFRY, you know they waited until Tito died, then lets fvck SFRY. Same goes for the USSR, it feel because retards let themselves be introduced to the demo-CRAZY crap, extreme nationalism and all that crap that led to divide (Divide and conquer) and you can clearly see the massive and overwhelming, negative effects of this demo-crazy development since 1989 - 1992.

The fact that there are two countries called "Russia" and "Ukraine" is precisely the negative effect I'm talking about. Because, there should NOT have been anything today that is called "Russia" and "Ukraine". It should still have been the USSR. Same goes for SFRY, but instead there are lots of small and weak, divided countries after demo-crazy crap that happened.

PRC, on the other hand, reacted the correct way, back in 1989, and I fully support the reaction from PRC with all my heart. PRC has been very smart so far, which is the reason why PRC has the position it has today. PRC leadership defended the state, the country, the motherland, its borders - as it should. No discussion. This is where USSR and SFRY failed.

But over the past few years, we have seen this naive belief in the "international world order" and the "international rules", after the U.S. (Trump) pretty much declared PRC as an enemy over night, without any reason to do so. Since his first term (2017), he has been like a rabid, psycho pro-Adolf / pro-Mussolini dog who has "PRC" on his brain, 24 / 7.

Given the facts that this fascist sicko is now attacking one country after the other, seeing what was done to Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Lebanon, Sudan, Somalia, Yemen - and now Iran, Venezuela and Cuba - it is impossible to ignore.

One should not laugh or talk about any potential U.S. collapse before it has happened. Remember 1975. The U.S. was defeated in Vietnam, but it didn't took U.S. Empire more than 16 years after that so-called "defeat" in Vietnam in order to put both SFRY and USSR along with Warsaw Pact into the grave, with traitors in both SFRY and USSR who let themselves divide on behalf of the Empire.

Now we all remember August 2021 regarding Afghanistan. The U.S. Empire was "defeated", but not really. Because since February 2022, the Empire is giving Russia a lot of serious problems with Ukraine.

Syria has fallen in December 2024 with Hezballah being decimated in Lebanon (actually whole Lebanon is getting decimated by the extremist Epstein regime from Tel Aviv) and now Iran is under brutal and massive attack, with Houthis being cornered in Yemen, but still standing, for now.

PRC and Xi needs to start acting serious now and stop playing the dumb "do nothing - and win" meme bullshit, as that was only possible when the enemy didn't had PRC on top of its enemy list. There were always Russians first that needed to be defeated and the West is killing Russians indirectly through Kiev-regime, then Al-Qaeda was the enemy, (which the U.S. also supported in the Middle East) and now Iran with PRC being on their mind 24 / 7.

For PRC to continue to pretend that they are not on top of the Western Adolf + Mussolini + Epstein list would be like Pakistan pretending that Hindutva sickos don't want Pakistan dead.
 

Serb

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Even though I agree that he is a clown, actually a racist, fascist clown that likes to touch pre-teen girls, if I might add, the U.S. Empire should never be underestimated.
I have been hearing this "U.S. is collapsing" for far too long, and I never believed in it, because I have seen how the Empire is taking one country after the another and decimates them without any mercy.

Lets start with SFRY, you know they waited until Tito died, then lets fvck SFRY. Same goes for the USSR, it feel because retards let themselves be introduced to the demo-CRAZY crap, extreme nationalism and all that crap that led to divide (Divide and conquer) and you can clearly see the massive and overwhelming, negative effects of this demo-crazy development since 1989 - 1992.

The fact that there are two countries called "Russia" and "Ukraine" is precisely the negative effect I'm talking about. Because, there should NOT have been anything today that is called "Russia" and "Ukraine". It should still have been the USSR. Same goes for SFRY, but instead there are lots of small and weak, divided countries after demo-crazy crap that happened.

PRC, on the other hand, reacted the correct way, back in 1989, and I fully support the reaction from PRC with all my heart. PRC has been very smart so far, which is the reason why PRC has the position it has today. PRC leadership defended the state, the country, the motherland, its borders - as it should. No discussion. This is where USSR and SFRY failed.

But over the past few years, we have seen this naive belief in the "international world order" and the "international rules", after the U.S. (Trump) pretty much declared PRC as an enemy over night, without any reason to do so. Since his first term (2017), he has been like a rabid, psycho pro-Adolf / pro-Mussolini dog who has "PRC" on his brain, 24 / 7.

Given the facts that this fascist sicko is now attacking one country after the other, seeing what was done to Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Lebanon, Sudan, Somalia, Yemen - and now Iran, Venezuela and Cuba - it is impossible to ignore.

One should not laugh or talk about any potential U.S. collapse before it has happened. Remember 1975. The U.S. was defeated in Vietnam, but it didn't took U.S. Empire more than 16 years after that so-called "defeat" in Vietnam in order to put both SFRY and USSR along with Warsaw Pact into the grave, with traitors in both SFRY and USSR who let themselves divide on behalf of the Empire.

Now we all remember August 2021 regarding Afghanistan. The U.S. Empire was "defeated", but not really. Because since February 2022, the Empire is giving Russia a lot of serious problems with Ukraine.

Syria has fallen in December 2024 with Hezballah being decimated in Lebanon (actually whole Lebanon is getting decimated by the extremist Epstein regime from Tel Aviv) and now Iran is under brutal and massive attack, with Houthis being cornered in Yemen, but still standing, for now.

PRC and Xi needs to start acting serious now and stop playing the dumb "do nothing - and win" meme bullshit, as that was only possible when the enemy didn't had PRC on top of its enemy list. There were always Russians first that needed to be defeated and the West is killing Russians indirectly through Kiev-regime, then Al-Qaeda was the enemy, (which the U.S. also supported in the Middle East) and now Iran with PRC being on their mind 24 / 7.

For PRC to continue to pretend that they are not on top of the Western Adolf + Mussolini + Epstein list would be like Pakistan pretending that Hindutva sickos don't want Pakistan dead.

I think you’re being too pessimistic; you’re confusing pure destructive potential with an internal engine of competency and strength. It’s quite easy to cause chaos, and we should expect it, especially since the US still has a massive amount of leftover momentum from the days when it was actually functional.

The reality is that as the US declines, it will likely cause more chaos, not less. But destroying value is easy; building or extracting it is the hard part. At the end of the day, war is just an extension of politics, and the math doesn't favor the empire. Leveling civilian infrastructure in a random Arab country is infinitely less valuable than China building thousands of kilometers of High-Speed Rail for its own people in a single year really.

Was the $8 trillion lost in the 'War on Terror' justified? Think of the high-tech factories and sovereign supply chains they could have built with that wealth. If they had invested at home, they wouldn't be pathetically dependent on China for rare earths and everything else (and have 17% trust in the government). I'm sorry, but if you overfixate on external, primal warmongering as a metric for 'success,' your mindset is no different from the westoids you dislike.


Or you want to compare actual metrics, we could look at proxies for my "collapse" statement? Do you have any counterargument links?



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SlothmanAllen

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The more I think about Trump 2.0, the more it becomes apparent that his first really was saved from his worst impulses by the people that surrounded him at the time. Trump has two more years in office, and I not sure what guardrails will be in place to stop him from reacting in an even more deranged manner.

In many ways, Trump 2nd term is exactly as bad as many people were predicting Trump 1st term would be. The fact that he ended being constrained in his 1st term lead a lot of American voters to believe that the left/anti-trump movement was exaggerating how bad he was. With how gaslight and cult like Trump support has become among some American's, I am not sure they can even grasp how bad this second term has been and is likely to get.

From ICE, to Venezuela and now Iran I honestly don't think we have even seen half of the chaos this administration could unleash.

I think you’re being too pessimistic; you’re confusing pure destructive potential with an internal engine of competency and strength. It’s quite easy to cause chaos, and we should expect it, especially since the US still has a massive amount of leftover momentum from the days when it was actually functional.

I really don't know... I agree with everything you are saying in principle, but like the poster you are quoting, I am way too pessimistic to actually believe America will be constrained or face any real consequences.
 

MMelon

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The more I think about Trump 2.0, the more it becomes apparent that his first really was saved from his worst impulses by the people that surrounded him at the time. Trump has two more years in office, and I not sure what guardrails will be in place to stop him from reacting in an even more deranged manner.

In many ways, Trump 2nd term is exactly as bad as many people were predicting Trump 1st term would be. The fact that he ended being constrained in his 1st term lead a lot of American voters to believe that the left/anti-trump movement was exaggerating how bad he was. With how gaslight and cult like Trump support has become among some American's, I am not sure they can even grasp how bad this second term has been and is likely to get.

From ICE, to Venezuela and now Iran I honestly don't think we have even seen half of the chaos this administration could unleash.



I really don't know... I agree with everything you are saying in principle, but like the poster you are quoting, I am way too pessimistic to actually believe America will be constrained or face any real consequences.
MSS Agent Trump is trying to accomplish everything he can, as fast as he can, in case he does not succeed in becoming anointed as King. I literally could not think of a way for any US president to tear its empire down faster and benefit China harder.
 
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