2026 Israel - Iranian conflict [TEMP LOCKED]

[Cygnus]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2029848303521910930

what an absolute disaster, what did Zionists believe would happen when they started killing all the negotiators, that they’d find someone cowardly enough to negotiate? Did they ever anticipate they’d just end up killing all the cowards, leaving only those with steel resolve?

It probably haven't dawned on Him yet, but the orange fuhrer crossed the Rubicon on the first day.

At this stage of the war, He better make some future win win preparation like military conscription, convert ICE agents into a lean mean fighting machine, do some enlisting promotions during His MAGA rallies. Your God Emperor the annointed one needs you, join the Army for Israel.

And then He can throw in some perks, if you join you get 3 meals a day plus you get 1000 credit of Trump's digital coin and a free Bible with Trump's signature.

If they refuse just declare a martial law and ask Zelenskyy for assistance on how to force people to enlist and lead a Country indefinitely.

 

[AlexYe]

Killing a 86 yo Ayatollah who objectively wanted to be martyred?

Who also had cancer and was about to die off

what did Zionists believe would happen when they started killing all the negotiators

That was the point, the point was to Trap US into the iran war, and not let them get out, hence israeli strikes killing Ayatollah.
Trump was sold by zionists that it will be like venezeula but that was a lie.

But only Netanyahu is the problem

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2029651824442003722

this is what happens to a country thats more a military base and its people fed constant propaganda for past 70 years.

apart from ammunition/missiles looks like US Depleted their oil reserve also..

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2029696276242067620

Is this why they went for venezeula first?
The US embassy reopened today

Trump doing it on purpose.

No, this is zionist thing too, trump doesnt have that brain, he is stupid.
Israeli zionists have been wanting to trap US into iran war for years only now they have found someone stupid enough to do it.
You see this benefits israel if all goes well.
All of US bases in middle east destroyed, us will get into turmoil and weakened militarily, i-e they wont restablish the bases in ME , gulf countries are also bitter now.
And if iran is defeated, who is left in the middle east with the most power?
Israel.

Does US even have enough troops for ground invasion?

They could bring 1 million troops and it wont be enough,

This is topographical map of Iran, I hope everyone sees the issue now..

 

[BasilicaLew]

>A Chinese surveillance drone sent telemetry in the highlighted areas.

 

[EmoBirb]

Does US even have enough troops for ground invasion?

In theory, of course.

The US could achieve a successful ground invasion in Iran. They did far more difficult things during WW2.

But they'd have to introduce the draft back and would have to be willing to accept WW2 levels of casualties. Furthermore they'd have to mobilize their entire military for that single undertaking. Meaning, deploying the entire USAF, USN, USMC and Army. The logistical dimension would be unthinkable and the expenses staggering. And while the US has mastered logsitics like no other military that's currently active, this might just break them. It would also ultimately mean they'd have to abandon all their other interests temporarily. A Situation everyone who wishes could take advantage of in their respective backyard. So not only do I not see that happening, it would be political suicide for Trump and everyone associated with his government. Thus the Israel lobby would have to look for a new pawn.

So going half hearted in would be Afghanistan but much, much, much worse, going all in would ultimately yield success but the cost would make that a phyrric victory at best.

 

[Serb]

This is topographical map of Iran, I hope everyone sees the issue now..

Yeah, but not only that. There has also been a massive underestimation of Iran and a lack of understanding of the concept of scale in the West.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2029846296580723141

 

[iewgnem]

In theory, of course.

The US could achieve a successful ground invasion in Iran. They did far more difficult things during WW2.

But they'd have to introduce the draft back and would have to be willing to accept WW2 level of casualties. And not only do I not see that happening, it would be political suicide for Trump and everyone associated with his government. Thus the Israel lobby would have to look for a new pawn.

You forgot the industrial base

 

[AlexYe]

>A Chinese surveillance drone sent telemetry in the highlighted areas.
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Telemetry about what??


There is potentially an issue going in iran right now, apart from all the bombings and all that.
And thats the conflict between the IRGC and council-government.

The IRGC is pushing the council to elect the more hardcore Mujtaba Khameini as the next leader, ignoring seniority and other guidance rules, meanwhile the Council is pushing to elect a more 'progressive' (the words were MBS style) leader that can woo the west later,

There is fear that the ones the council members are pushing is essential 'pro-west' guy/a plant/sellout.

Yeah, but not only that. There has also been a massive underestimation of Iran and a lack of understanding of the concept of scale in the West.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2029846296580723141

Even these numbers are 10 years old, iran population is 90 million now, spread over much larger more dangerous area.

And as for the ground forces number, this doesnt even take into account the million of volunteers, Irani religious leaders have declared Jihad, and its not going to remain limited to Shia's.

The Deobandi (its a sunni movement/faction in pakistan with huge influence) in Karachi announced today on Friday's prayer speech that they will declare jihad IF us-west-israel troops land in Iran.
This will make the soviet-afghan war look like small fry
Pakistani government wont be able to stop them or else it will cause an internal conflict.

 

[delfer]

In theory, of course.

The US could achieve a successful ground invasion in Iran. They did far more difficult things during WW2.

But they'd have to introduce the draft back and would have to be willing to accept WW2 level of casualties. Furthermore they'd have to mobilize their entire military for that single undertaking. Meaning deploying the entire USAF, USN, USMC and Army. The logistical dimension would be unthinkable and the expenses staggering. And while the US has mastered logsitics like no other military that's currently active, this might just break them. It would also ultimately mean they'd have to abandon all their other interests temporarily. A Situation everyone who wishes could take advantage of in their respective backyard. So not only do I not see that happening, it would be political suicide for Trump and everyone associated with his government. Thus the Israel lobby would have to look for a new pawn.

This isn't World War 2 though. Drones have completely changed the battlefield. The U.S. also didn't have two massive enemies waiting to strangle it the moment it did something stupid. Quite the opposite, back then those two countries were on its side. It only had to deal with small, overzealous and overly-nationalistic countries fighting wars on two fronts with much more populated countries. It also never had to do a ground invasion through such hostile territory.This would literally be the end of America if they tried it. Not even Vietnam would compare.

 

[iewgnem]

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Unsurprising. Russia has an axe to grind with them because of their total, absolute, "non-participation" in Ukraine. What the Americans and their NATO entourage are doing there, Russia can do in the middle east just as well.

Meanwhile China is only concerned about their precious oil. Energy dependency cuts both ways, as it seems.

Despite the memes it actually takes a lot of work to get to a point where nobody dare to say anything about the work you're doing.

 

[EmoBirb]

You forgot the industrial base

The industrial base is not the major issue, industry can be scaled, thiefdoms squeezed dry, the black market being tapped. Not to mention that industrial concerns impact high end munitions like ALCMs, not guided and unguided bombs, rifle rounds, grenades, shells. Which would do the heavy lifting.

The issue is ultimately that attempting to draft the US youth and being willing to accept casualties in the hundreds of thousands would result in Trump being removed from office and most likely jailed.

In short, the issue is people, less so industrial output. And for successful ground campaign you need lots of people and lots of people to replace fallen soldiers. And Iranian terrain, while not impossible to overcome, is ultimately extremely hostile and native Iranians are adept to operate, fight and survive in these mountains. And while some US troops have experience with similar ground, they'd be few and far between and would be victims to attrition over the course of such a war. And I wouldn't trust a drafted teen from urban California to perform particularly well there, even with air support.