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Some1Guy

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Nothing like going to war with a NATO country just because they don't want to give you money to spend on weapons while also fighting Russia and also sending your drone experts to Cyprus to defend a British military base. Also your military is in shambles trying to fight Russia so it would be definitely smart to open a second front.

He's already stretching Ukraine thin so going trough with this would be suicide.
 

TPenglake

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The US, in a poll that includes India, Brazil, and Nigeria, is the only country listed where the majority of its citizens see their fellow citizens as morally bad.

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Edit I think its clear to most of the world. If it wasn't for the dollar and a handful of tech companies, the US in most respects is basically a third world country nowadays.
 
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siegecrossbow

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Looks like President DJT just
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Kristi Noem from her administration role as Secretary of Homeland Security:

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Without her legion of ICE and CBP tough guys, how will America's favorite
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cosplay now?! ;)
Might have to resort to the profession with the highest ROI since it’s just so damn hard finding honest work in the Trump economy.
 

FriedButter

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Ahead of President Trump’s visit to Beijing, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent is considering putting a tricky trade-off on the agenda for coming talks with his Chinese counterpart: reducing China’s oil purchases from U.S. adversaries like Russia.

So the Trump Retards are coming to China to demand they buy less oil from Russia and Iran as they create an energy crisis in the Middle East.
 

dingyibvs

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Technically possible, but politically and strategically massively stupid to do so.

Right now, everyone blames the closure of the Gulf on the Americans and Israelis. If China were to open up a safe passage just for Chinese ships, then immediately the western MSM will seize on that to spin it as evil China being selfish and not reopening the gulf to all. And suddenly all the pressure will be on China to grant safe passage to all or damage relations with every country China doesn’t cover. The very definition of a no-win situation.

Besides, China is far better prepared than the west to weather the coming storm. It has significant domestic production, vast reserves, and most crucially, direct access to full Russian supplies.

China can easily accommodate the reduced supplies from the ME more or less indefinitely with modest consumption and export changes (like the ban on exports of diesel and gasoline) because it has purposefully built its economy that way in anticipation of being cut off from ME supplies in the event of a war over Taiwan or Japan.

There is zero need for China to take any such action and it will not take any such action as a massive oil shock to the world from this war of aggression by America and Israel only serves to advance Chinese interests one way or another.

I think you're being a little too simplistic in your thinking. This could be the start of a racket. China could refine the petrol and resell it at a premium to preferred partners. Some of the profits can be recycled back to Iran. The gulf states as well as Russia can charge a premium to cushion the blow from reduced volume and sanctions respectively.

If you look at the end results compared to the status quo

Net positive: China for stable supply and profits. Iran, for getting a share of the profits for not really having to do anything.

Net slight negative: GCC for the reduced volume, China/Iran friendly countries for higher prices but stable supply.

Net major negative: China unfriendly countries for both limited supply as well as massively higher prices.

The first step for China is instituting export controls, which it has already done. After some time of no supply and sky high prices, the status quo for most countries will be much worse than currently, thus making the aforementioned "end scenario" more appealing, even for most of the "net major negative" countries as they can ameliorate the situation by cozying up to China and Iran, even if only with diplomatic support.
 
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