2026 Israel - Iranian conflict [TEMP LOCKED]

[tamsen_ikard]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2028925227296546903

this dude's napkin math estimated the US used more than 400 Tomahawks which is 5 years worth of production

the PLAN must be so happy rn

Tomahawk is a terrible subsonic cruise missile. CJ-10 is likely much better, let alone all the supersonic and hypersonics that China has.

In modern warfare tomahawk is just a jet powered shahed drone level of tech. Even fighter jets can shoot it down.

 

[EmoBirb]

Iran has 3 Kilo

Do we know the status of their 3 subs? Three Kilos go a long way, even nowadays.

 

[iewgnem]

Use stuff w- manufacturing date prior of 2008. no backdoor.

Nope, if it's from the west, there's backdoor, dating back to forever, no exception.

 

[manqiangrexue]

Do we know the status of their 3 subs? Three Kilos go a long way, even nowadays.

They're waiting for the, "We'll escort you through Hormuz" shit.

 

[Gloire_bb]

Tomahawk is a terrible subsonic cruise missile. CJ-10 is likely much better, let alone all the supersonic and hypersonics that China has.

In modern warfare tomahawk is just a jet powered shahed drone level of tech. Even fighter jets can shoot it down.

Tomahawk apparently got a very significant refresh though. I wouldn't rush to consider it outdated anymore.

 

[EmoBirb]

Tomahawk is a terrible subsonic cruise missile. CJ-10 is likely much better, let alone all the supersonic and hypersonics that China has.

In modern warfare tomahawk is just a jet powered shahed drone level of tech. Even fighter jets can shoot it down.

Yet there's little evidence of them getting reliable intercepted at any reasonable scale, or at all to be honest. I like to laugh at the Americans as much as anyone else when they put themselves knee deep into shit. But making up claims about the supposed ineffectiveness of the Tomahawk without much to back it up sounds too much like simple cheerleading. Not to mention that there are many other things that seperate a purpose build cruise missile from a long range strike drone, it's also worth noting that "subsonic" is a very broad statement and it's quite the difference if a missile travels just below the sound barrier or barely faster than a cropduster.

 

[Gloire_bb]

Yet there's little evidence of them getting reliable intercepted at any reasonable scale, or at all to be honest.

Most of that is on Iranians. Their ADF wasn't designed to even try until recent years, and whatever Iran tried to add last moment came too little, too late.
That is apart from lack of any visible performance from their radar SAMs in general tbh.

 

[Anlsvrthng]

Nope, if it's from the west, there's backdoor, dating back to forever, no exception.

Well, first, everything has backdoor, just me make it clear, doesn't matter where you made and whom made it.

But, prior of 2008 there was simply not enoguth transistor to make backdoors and similar stuff in electronics. So, there is nothing there is practice.

Companies started to make experiences with this kind of stuff around 2004, first units with hypervisors arrived around that time.

first realy backdoored stuff arived around 2008 .

If you want true non backdoored cumputer use an old xbox or ps3 , that is fully hacked . not so fast, but can be made fully secure.

Hence the preference of the military to use old, 2005 and prior stuff, with clear and easy to check silicons.

 

[bsdnf]

A Chinese worker found a discarded ATACMS (M57A1) launcher box on the roadside in Kuwait...

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[Tomboy]

Most of that is on Iranians. Their ADF wasn't designed to even try until recent years, and whatever Iran tried to add last moment came too little, too late.
That is apart from lack of any visible performance from their radar SAMs in general tbh.

Ground hugging missiles are still hard to defeat IMO, unlike some here would like to claim without AEWC providing a large radar horizon to detect these missiles, destroying them from purely ground defense is difficult not due to the missile itself being hard to intercept but simply due to ground system have tiny horizon against these targets especially in bad terrain meaning you either need to have a very large amount of ground radars to fully stop them or use AEWC.