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bsdnf

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Meituan issued a profit warning on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange: the company expects to turn from profit to loss in 2025, recording a net loss of approximately RMB 23.3 billion to RMB 24.3 billion for the full year.

This represents a dramatic reversal in profits, with a net profit of approximately RMB 35.808 billion in 2024, a turnaround of nearly RMB 60 billion.

Oh dear.
 

siegecrossbow

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Meituan issued a profit warning on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange: the company expects to turn from profit to loss in 2025, recording a net loss of approximately RMB 23.3 billion to RMB 24.3 billion for the full year.

This represents a dramatic reversal in profits, with a net profit of approximately RMB 35.808 billion in 2024, a turnaround of nearly RMB 60 billion.

Oh dear.
Kinda expected due to the food delivery companies fighting a price war.
 

Wrought

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Paper on the complexities of data-use regulations.

The paper analyzes three policy experiments aimed at advancing China’s data economy: data assetization, which enables data to be valued and traded as a financial assets; state-owned data exchanges, which provide platforms for the controlled marketization of data; and public data franchising, which grants select entities exclusive rights to commercialize government-held public data. These experiments seek to integrate fragmented local data markets into a unified national market, addressing China’s persistent data fragmentation across jurisdictions and sectors, also called the “data island” problem. While early progress is evident, significant challenges remain, including uneven data quality, weak demand for data products, limited interoperability among domestic data markets, emerging monopolistic tendencies in data franchising, and unresolved privacy and security risks.

Globally, China’s state-led data economy is often presented as an alternative to European Union and U.S. approaches to data governance, which tend to frame data governance primarily as a constraint on liberal markets rather than tools to support market construction and development. By examining China’s evolving data governance regime, this paper contributes to comparative debates on data governance and offers insights into why China’s approach may hold particular appeal in non-Western contexts, especially as emerging digital powers actively advance growth-centered political economies around data and AI.

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manqiangrexue

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Not a fan of their coffe myself, but Luckin is expanding fast, so I guess someone is.



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I am LOVIN' MiXue. Currently in Almaty; at the mall, the most expensive drink, which is pretty fancy mango cream with fruit and milk-based bobba, is just $2! That's like a $10 drink in Atlanta! Jasmine milk tea, $7 in Atlanta, is $1.10 here! Most drinks are $1-2 and their signature ice cream is Chinese vanilla on a rolled sesame waffle cone for $0.40 each!! The businesses around them are totally getting killed cus it's normally like $4-5 for those drinks in Kazakhstan. I can definitely see why Chinese competition is feared the world around. In a whole mall, the MiXue store stands out heads and shoulders above other sweets shops in value and popularity so I don't know how the Kazakh government feels about that but I'm spending my money there supporting Chinese business getting fat trying everything and going every day!

My wife says I look like a man-child derp walking down the street licking an ice cream cone in one hand, drinking a mango bobba in the other hand with a bag full of drinks hanging from my elbow...
 

sunnymaxi

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China has minted more Billionaires from Ai and related Technologies.

These new tycoons have amassed a collective $100.5 billion.

That shift has ushered in a new kind of tech elite in China. The era of the rock-star CEOs — exemplified by Jack Ma’s extroverted at performance an Alibaba Group Holding Ltd.’s anniversary party in 2017 — has given way to a generation of quiet geeks.

The shift has also been marked by the return of veteran executives from US tech giants, a trend that was evident in December when a flurry of IPOs minted roughly half a dozen new billionaires — many were former employees of Nvidia Corp. and Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.

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tankphobia

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China has minted more Billionaires from Ai and related Technologies.

These new tycoons have amassed a collective $100.5 billion.

That shift has ushered in a new kind of tech elite in China. The era of the rock-star CEOs — exemplified by Jack Ma’s extroverted at performance an Alibaba Group Holding Ltd.’s anniversary party in 2017 — has given way to a generation of quiet geeks.

The shift has also been marked by the return of veteran executives from US tech giants, a trend that was evident in December when a flurry of IPOs minted roughly half a dozen new billionaires — many were former employees of Nvidia Corp. and Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.

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I wonder what the end game is with these AI startups. Much of them are basically replacing short form content creators at scale. From AI scripted marketing to movie/show recaps we're basically seeing millions of jobs evaporate.

But this doesn't necessarily bring in that much income to those AI startups since they're providing a free service to compete against other companies. At this point like their US rivals they're basically sucking up VC money and setting the money on fire to gain market share.
 

Nevermore

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If AI technology drastically reduces the cost of producing TV dramas, films, and animated series, it could democratize what was once complex creative work. This mirrors how the 4G internet era enabled anyone to become a broadcaster or content creator, breaking the monopoly of traditional TV and print media and ushering in a long era of remarkable growth for internet-based self-media. In the future, anyone could potentially create short dramas, animations, or TV series. Among these creators, new self-made millionaires will emerge. Now might be the perfect time to learn screenwriting and creative skills! — However, things could also take a different turn. For instance, if AI becomes so powerful that even the advanced creators using it become redundant, everyone might end up interacting solely with AI terminals for entertainment. In that scenario, the wealth within the internet industry would be entirely controlled by AI companies.
 

siegecrossbow

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If AI technology drastically reduces the cost of producing TV dramas, films, and animated series, it could democratize what was once complex creative work. This mirrors how the 4G internet era enabled anyone to become a broadcaster or content creator, breaking the monopoly of traditional TV and print media and ushering in a long era of remarkable growth for internet-based self-media. In the future, anyone could potentially create short dramas, animations, or TV series. Among these creators, new self-made millionaires will emerge. Now might be the perfect time to learn screenwriting and creative skills! — However, things could also take a different turn. For instance, if AI becomes so powerful that even the advanced creators using it become redundant, everyone might end up interacting solely with AI terminals for entertainment. In that scenario, the wealth within the internet industry would be entirely controlled by AI companies.

Real use case of AI that has not been fully tapped yet is integration with robotic assets. I think the hardware has reached the point where a lot of labor intensive roles (nurses who need to transport patients for instance) can be automated.
 
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