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HighGround

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Having tried the new Kimi K2.5 and Qwen Max-Thinking models I can only say... the gap between Qwen and Kimi is getting larger, not smaller. Kimi is simply in another league. Qwen not only did poorly, it straight-up hallucinated on several of my questions.

K2 was already a good model but it is now clearly great with the 2.5 update. The reasoning performance is on par with Opus 4.5 and GPT5.2-high in my testing.

Of all the major Chinese labs, Moonshot is probably most deserving of being flooded with GPUs and investment. Too bad geopolitics will prevent it. The talent density of the team is astounding.
The worth of an AI isn't tied to their hallucination rate is all I'll say. Qwen's stack is much more important than Kimi.
 

Wrought

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Reuters is reporting that Deepseek and others have been granted conditional approval to purchase H200s at scale.

SINGAPORE, Jan 30 (Reuters) - China has given its top AI startup DeepSeek approval to buy Nvidia's
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H200 artificial intelligence chips with regulatory conditions that are still being finalised, two people familiar with the matter told Reuters. Reuters
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citing sources, that ByteDance, Alibaba
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and Tencent
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had been given permission to purchase more than 400,000 H200 chips in total.

Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang told reporters in Taipei on Thursday that his company
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received such information. He added that he believed that China was still finalising the licence. Nvidia did not respond to a request for comment on DeepSeek's approval. China's industry and commerce ministries have granted approvals for all four companies, but have stipulated that they will impose conditions that are still being finalised, the sources said. These conditions are being decided by China's state planner, the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC), according to one of the people.

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