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amlosny said:
Australia and the UK are among the largest overseas markets for Chinese cars, and a big portion of those customers are boomers.
They love Chinese cars. If people in the "Five Eyes" —who actually hate China politically—can get over their bias, why are Iranian boomers still hold onto such deep-seated racism? Aren't Iran and China supposed to be in the same camp?

Russia is sanctioned heavily, and on paper, Chinese companies have export controls there too. Yet, the Russians figure out how to get Chinese products. Even North Korea and Russia can manage parallel imports or smuggling in this global system—why is Iran incapable of doing the same? Aren't affordable, high-quality Chinese goods exactly what Iran’s sanction-crippled economy needs? Instead of figuring out import channels themselves, Iran expects Chinese companies to risk sanctions and hurt their own interests to enter? Where does this entitlement come from?

Hoping to sell them to US allies instead??? Source? Or you mean Pakistan?
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Where's the direct border between Iran and China? It's a bit easier to send things to Russia, isn't it?

Many, maybe most imported consumer goods are snuggled via small boats from the UAE. So actually some trade counted as Chinese exports to the UAE is actually going to Iran, but we don't even know.

People on this forum keep talking about selling stealth fighters to Saudi and UAE because Iran has spies. Even though these countries are full of literally US soldiers.

Iracundus said:
This monarchist is an educated professional in his late 40's or early 50's. I suspect he is more taken with the idea of the monarchy and opposition to the religious fundamentalism as he would have been barely a child when the shah was overthrown. I don't know his specific personal views on Chinese goods but he does seem to keep up to date with regards to things like AI and tech, and thinks deindustrialization was a big mistake made by countries. He seems to almost favor autarky as a general principle at least with regards to critical economic sectors. He was commenting on what he supposedly understands to be the general Iranian and Middle Eastern view of Chinese made goods, which I think may be based on his contacts and family still in the region, as cheap rubbish that doesn't last long or which underperforms even if all objective tests show otherwise.
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Simple. The perception of Chinese goods globally is at a turning point. Electric cars and solar is improving it, Temu is damaging it. But Iran and a lot of west Asia will usually be behind the trend because Chinese companies target other export markets first. In particular Iran needs smuggling via the UAE. They're cut off from the world to some extent. Perceptions will change slowly. Especially people who have left the country will not be up to date

Russians are actually not the biggest fans of China and very prideful. But now this might be changing because they get supplies, not because they read product testing reports
 
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bsdnf said:
This is related to Iran's ecosystem.

Basically, their industry has become extremely inward-looking in order to counter the US blockade. But this also means that vested interests will be extremely resistant to the arrival of Chinese goods, which means that barriers will be broken and monopolies will be dismantled.
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China also participated in previous UN sanctions on Iran. Compared to Pakistan, when it was sanctioned by the UN in the 1990s, China continued trade as well as sale of military equipment, in addition to aid, grants, soft loans, and payment deferrals. Seems like the repeated UN sanctions turned Iran extremely inward.
 
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I don't think the Shah will comeback because the Iranians got rid of him aswell so it would more like be another regime.
Plus every can see that the Shah is a coward. Even the Pakistani Defence Minister called him out when Iran was bombed by Israel.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/comments/1ldcru4
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It's still unlikely for the Shah to return, because Iran is not Western style electoral democracy. However it's better to not underestimate how easily people could forget a revolution.

Ferdinand Marcos Jr was elected into power decades after his father was kicked out by a revolution. Mahathir Mohammad, ruled Malaysia with an iron fist for 22 years until 2003. Voted back into power in 2018.

So I'm not surprised if some Iranians suddenly long for the Shah's return. If Iran had a Western style democracy, the Shah could very likely return.
 
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