I don't think that is possible since Iran has many shah followers and even though the shah was deposed, the sympatizers and supporters of the previous regime are still there. There is no way of uprooting it without another severe potential civil unrest. In this respect, it is similar to Vietnam, although the north won the war, there are many Vietnamese in the south that are still anti-China and pro-US for similar reasons.
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Iran is waiting for the leadership transition from the old revolutionaries to the next generation. The current leader is like Mao, firm in his ideology. Whether the next one will be a pragmatist like Deng or another ideologue remains to be seen. But Iran will experience major changes when Khamenei dies and that will most likely happen this decade. Much will depend on who is president at the time. It's possible that the current president would simply try to abolish the religious leadership position if Khamenei dies tomorrow
yet they’ll accept their role as Israeli and Zionist slaves and golems without resistance though!
none of that matters if Iranians think like Indians and believe they’re too good for China and try to become slaves to the western atlanticists. They got their asses handed to them in the last Israeli conflict and are only now trying to procure Chinese weaponry when they should have done this 10 years ago rather than having their top scientists becoming Israeli hamburgers.
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Why China must make sure that Russia wins the Ukraine War:
Acknowledgment of China's success often triggers some serious coping.
Acknowledgment of China's success often triggers some serious coping.
I know an Iranian professional (who is a monarchist but that is beside this specific point), and he says the general perception of Chinese made goods among the average Iranian (and he claims the average Middle East person) is that it's cheap rubbish that falls apart or doesn't work. I said what about performance tests, and he said the average person does not believe those, thinking they must be faked or propaganda.
All I can say is that if they have this much trouble with reality testing, then let the chips fall where they may. It's a form of societal natural selection. Societies that best adapt to changing realities and stay in touch with reality will survive better than those that remain stuck in delusions and outdated stereotypes.
Sounds like Iran and its people are destined for the trash bin of history.
After the Israel war i thought there will be change of thinking in Iranian people and they will realize that current regime is what keeps them safe and pandering to US and bowing down to Israel is not the way. But it seems Iran has moved in the opposite direction. The Iranians have become even more pro-western and have given up their independent foreign policy.
with this sadly I have to say that, Iran is done. Its over. It will fall into the western camp.
With both Venezuela and Iran falling into the western camp, things will be bad for China and Russia in both of those regions.
Venezuela is a peanut in the Latin American political landscape and China has been doing fine for years dealing directly with Brazil, Mexico, and others. Likewise in the Middle East with China's dealings with Saudi Arabia, UAE, etc. The political destruction of Iran and Venezuela and conversion into puppet states is actually not significant for China. The biggest losers by far are the Venezuelan and Iranian people. China will keep on doing its own thing as it has been, as will the US. And so their trajectories will continue the way they have been for the past 5-10 years with the US spiraling into the toilet bowl of corruption, as with China's progression to dominate all supply chains and technological frontiers.
Its not about trade. China will continue to trade with everyone. Its about strategic loyalties. When was the last time a country firmly changed its stance from pro-west to Pro-China/Russia, or even neutral to pro-China/Russia?
Instead the opposite has happened, countries that resisted western domination have been singled out, sanctioned, sometimes bombed, and eventually life has been made a living hell for its people. Its only a matter of time, but pretty much all these countries in this kind of hopeless scenario will admit defeat and likely have some kind of regime change towards the west. its just pragmatism.
So, what incentive is there for a new country to change its political stance and fight western domination? If its so costly and ultimately leads to defeat?
The example of Iran, venezuela, Cuba only makes other countries bow down to US and European domination. They get afraid and accept humiliation. This also negatively affects China as no country trusts China to be a strong backer. So, they listen to the order of US and the west when it comes to enforcing sanctions against China and Russia.
As China gets powerful, the west will force countries to choose sides and use these past example to threaten them to shun Chinese trade, investment or influence. China needs to start spending its money and resources to start backing up countries like Iran. It needs to stop being fence sitter. Cause otherwize, it will be truly isolated over time.