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HighGround

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China's best brains still are going abroad.

nth proof:


Quanta Magazine picked up the top 3 maths breakthroughs for the year. Total 7 mathematicians, 3 Chinese.

All of the 3 chinese researchers are however in the USA. I have seen same trend in multiple different fields.
It's true that the best Chinese minds often go overseas, even now. It's very hard to say no to a $100 million USD contract offered by Zuck. Even if I was a Chinese nationalist, I'd probably say yes and justify it as "scamming" Zuck. This isn't a problem though. Even if innovations are truly groundbreaking and paradigm-changing.

Even with, arguably, the greatest crop of physicists, United States didn't actually change the world until it standardized and integrated its nuclear arsenal, and its nuclear reactors en masse. What made the innovations actually change the world was the industrial might and progressive institutions that could turn the science into physical goods and services.

United States, nay, the entire West, is greatly diminished in both of those capacities. The institutions and the industry has massively degraded. Even if, by some chance, China missed out on their greatest Einsteins, their Bohrs, Von Neumanns, and so on. It's still vastle superior at organizing that talent, deploying it, and turning their output into useful products. So I'm not worried at all for China and this isn't really an issue worth discussing. It's just copium for United States.

Plus. Plenty of China's brightest minds choose to stay at home now, and more of the ones abroad opt to come back.
Holy shit.
Is this really a big deal though? I mean, unless it goes into mass production or until we see it in an actual car, seems a bit premature to celebrate.
 

Eventine

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If you think the brain drain is bad now, imagine how bad it was before the China Initiative. It is truly a “do nothing, win” moment for China that the West & its allies decided to treat all Chinese as spies and that sentiment will only strengthen with the Reuters article about how former ASML engineers of Chinese descent are leading China’s EUV efforts.
 

latenlazy

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It's true that the best Chinese minds often go overseas, even now.
I don’t think this is actually true anymore btw. In the past even the bright minds who wanted to stay couldn’t find the resources and support to do their best work and that was a big motivation for going abroad. The language barrier and being separated from families was not a small deal for STEM immigrants, and a lot of people who went abroad didn’t do so that eagerly. The push factors were as big a reason for the brain drain as the pull factors. These days pay and career prospects for top slots in China are as good as going abroad. Plus over the last three decades everyone has learned that there is a career ceiling that’s difficult to overcome in the West because actually management is lowkey racist about these things.
 

sdkan

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looks like it, 2 15MW reactors. It's a little unclear to me what form the CO2 is coming through as.
The "Ultra-Carbon No. 1" sintering-waste-heat project in Guizhou uses steel sintering off-gas that already contains 14–18 % CO₂. The system compresses this entire exhaust stream back into its closed loop and publicly claims an "annual CO₂ reduction of 128 500 t." In reality, it simply captures the gas that would have been vented and re-uses it within the cycle; the CO₂ is not destroyed.
 
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