China's transport, tanker & heavy lift aircraft - esp. Y-20/YY-20

[sheogorath]

C-1 was compromised and restricted by USA. C-2 is not that much compromised. C-2 and C-390 are not allowed in US and European markets, so numbers R smaller. Chinese response to C-2 would be much better in terms of load/speed/range and that would be there in time frame of 2026-27.

The C-2 is a compromise because the C-17 was way too big and expensive for Japan's needs plus it required opening a new logistics line for the PW engines. The C-2 uses CF6's which are old as fuck but Japan can manufacture parts for it and have commonality with their KC-767 and E-767 fleet. The C390 has been a success in Europe actually and outside of countries like Serbia(i.e non EU members) a sale of a sino C-2 would be blocked.

But it is all a moot point as there is not such thing as a twin engined Y-XX and it doesn't make sense for China to make one unless its someone else paying for the development. China has no need for it, anything too big for the Y-15/Y-30 can use Y-20/Il-76 as has been stated multiple times.

 

[HighGround]

Question, once in service, is it reasonable to expect this airframe to replace the Y-8/9 as the default choice for special misison aircraft (ASW, ELINT/SIGINT, AWACS)?

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

Y-20B1 would be a redesigned central fuselage that would be able to accommodate more than 100 tons. But to make minimum changes it would be be limited to 100 tons. It is the reason that Y -20B is not manufactured in numbers.

Y-40 comparable to C-5 would be able LIFT more than 150 ton. Engines used would be a derivative of WS-20 with higher thrust.

Medium capacity cargo airlifter would use a derivative of WS-20 with higher thrust and may be named as Y-30 instead of Y-15. Y-15 is a designation which came out since 9Dec2025. In case of necessity it can 2 more engines in rear of fuselage to provide more thrust and more APU for radars and avionics. It is being contemplated to be used as awards also. Temptation to use 2 engines is much desirable.

It all depends upon available aero engines and their maximum thrust.

Given that I do have certain backgrounds in the engineering field, I see that you certainly do love to talk sh1t with nil substance, more so as a newcomer at that, despite many people here already attempted at rectifying your mistakes.

@Deino @Blitzo I'm not sure how to entertain this idi0t anymore.

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

Question, once in service, is it reasonable to expect this airframe to replace the Y-8/9 as the default choice for special misison aircraft (ASW, ELINT/SIGINT, AWACS)?

Yes, if there is no other common special mission platform being developed.

 

[Confusionism]

Yes, if there is no other common special mission platform being developed.

I believe it's quite the opposite. If the photo is genuine, this design is even less suitable than the Y-8/9 as a universal platform. It has lower speed, worse fuel efficiency, and its tough runway capability offers little advantage for AWACS, EW, or ASW aircraft.

 

[Mekconyov]

As myself have certain backgrounds in the engineering field, I see that you certainly do love to talk sh1t with nil substance, more so as a newcomer at that, despite many people here already attempted at rectifying your mistakes.

@Deino @Blitzo I'm not sure how to entertain this idi0t anymore.

When u demonstrate to be unreasonable and obnoxiously arrogant no need of any response. My background is in electronics, electrical engineering, computer hardware, radars and avionics. I have deep interest in airlifters right with inception of DH Caribou. I avoid idiots so U Be the 1 also. No more rejoinders.

 

[sunnymaxi]

I believe it's quite the opposite. If the photo is genuine, this design is even less suitable than the Y-8/9 as a universal platform. It has lower speed, worse fuel efficiency, and its tough runway capability offers little advantage for AWACS, EW, or ASW aircraft.

this photo is taken from the video.. its Y-15 a medium category class airlifter from Shaanxi Aircraft. which was anticipated for years.

it has way better and efficient Engines, better material , better manufacturing process than any Y-8/Y-9 series aircraft.

PLAAF is not happy with Y-8/Y-9 family include their old engines. this is the major reason why Shaanxi designed Y-15..

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

When u demonstrate to be unreasonable and obnoxiously arrogant no need of any response. My background is in electronics, electrical engineering, computer hardware, radars and avionics. I have deep interest in airlifted right with inception of DH Caribou. I avoid idiots so Be the 1 also. No more rejoinders.

Right... How about you learn to be coherent first instead of spouting all those hilarious mumbo jumbo?

 

[Confusionism]

this photo is taken from the video.. its Y-15 a medium category class airlifter from Shaanxi Aircraft. which was anticipated for years.

it has way better and efficient Engines, better material , better manufacturing process than any Y-8/Y-9 series aircraft.

PLAAF is not happy with Y-8/Y-9 family include their old engines. this aircraft specifically designed to replace older machines.

However, lacking a better DESIGN ( to be a universal platform), its design is highly specialized for frontline transporters, which isn't a bad thing. The Y-8/9 simply isn't suited for that role. All the points you mentioned could be also applied to upgrading the Y-8/Y-9.

 

[HighGround]

However, lacking a better DESIGN ( to be a universal platform), its design is highly specialized for frontline transporters, which isn't a bad thing. The Y-8/9 simply isn't suited for that role. All the points you mentioned could be also applied to upgrading the Y-8/Y-9.

Can you be more specific? I.E. outline your reasoning by pointing at the design features of the plane that make it unsuitable?