Next Generation DDG and FFG thread (after 055, 052D, 054B)

[Deino]

What about this rumour or claim?

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

What about this rumour or claim?

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That mockup structure is more of a generic test and evaluation platform for radar and sensor systems, which has existed for years by now.

As per @by78 and @bsdnf two months ago in this thread:

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According to the photographer, this mockup existed for several years. It is the original bridge design of 055, but the actual 055 bridge is smaller. It is not the design of the 055A or the next generation DDG.

That thing has been around for a very long time, first spotted four years ago and already talked about on this forum. It almost certainly has nothing to do with the next-gen DDG.

So, no - That structure is in no way indicative of the eventual/final designs/configurations of the next-generation DDGs (and CGs, if any).

 

[para80]

Unless someone can point to a relevant industry solicitation or imagery showing relevant construction, I fail to see why this speculation, going off a test rig that existed for eight years, should merit significant attention. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

On a semi-related note I think we lack a proper shrug emoji here.

 

[The Observer]

Unless someone can point to a relevant industry solicitation or imagery showing relevant construction, I fail to see why this speculation, going off a test rig that existed for eight years, should merit significant attention. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

On a semi-related note I think we lack a proper shrug emoji here.

On that off topic, we absolutely need the facepalm emoji for silly takes or obvious baits. Something like "Bro, really?" or "Are you daft?" in emoji form. Laugh emoji is a substitute, but the feel is a bit different, isn't it?

 

[00CuriousObserver]

Here is that ship, thanks to @foolsball. Seems like a cilvilian ship

 

[Maikeru]

Here is that ship, thanks to @foolsball. Seems like a cilvilian ship

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What about what's in the narrow drydock next to it?

 

[00CuriousObserver]

It's a 055

Thanks to foolsball for the photos. Dated Nov 22

Is this the 15th 055? Ships 9-14 have all been launched if I am not mistaken

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

Here is that ship, thanks to @foolsball. Seems like a cilvilian ship

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With those cargo hold wall structures, that one certainly is a civilian ship.

 

[Engineer]

Where's the pimping up a frigate coming from? I'm simply saying the new frigate should be larger for blue water operation, this is also what others on weibo has been saying.

Except that's not only what you and people like you are saying. The issue isn't whether frigate should be larger — they should be larger, it is that you (and Weibo fanboys) are trying to justify putting destroyer-level armaments on a frigate. That's exactly what pimping up a frigate is.

Once these new frigates go into serial it'll be another 5 years or so, you are designing ships for the next 30+ years not the next 5-10. Also is HHQ-16A really sufficient for even self protection in the near future?

We would be looking at HHQ-16B/C by then, so you are focusing on the wrong issue and asking the wrong questions.

War doesn't go from 0 to 11 in an instance. There is a period of escalation. A frigate is more likely to find itself in a gun duel than a saturation attack. Size and speed would be important here, not long range air-defence. Any situation more intense than that and frigates would be grouped into a task force with destroyers anyway.

 

[Tomboy]

Rumors about a dual gas turbine CODLAG ship, the post initially had a picture showed a superstructure rendering from a paper that is broadly similar to a Zumwalt.