That's not how it's currently being pitched though. It's being pitched as Taiwan exports them to US for installation of back doors and collection of tariffs, then reexported to China from the US after they're ready to be installed and provide back doors into Chinese networks for NSA to hack China.
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Anyone with a semblence of knowledge in computing should know that these so called installation of backdoors is complete non-sense. Computer chips are specifically designed to perform a strict set of functions. No GPU can magically connect to the internet in a hidden manner. Spying requires network connection and whatever data is being sent has to go through several protocols and layers before they are sent out.
Even windows firewall can detect unauthorized network access and block it, let alone multiple layers of firewalls and checks that high security computers will have.
This is just China using the excuse of a backdoor to stop Chip import from NVDIA. Just like US uses backdoor as an excuse to ban Chinese products.
But I do believe China should ban Nvdia completely. Only with a complete ban can Chinese AI companies be forced to develop the necessary software tools and libraries that are needed for efficient AI training and inference. They should be developing all the tools and software to make Huawei's answer to CUDA viable.
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Too little too late:
It is even more impressive if you exclude the imports of energy, raw materials, and food from China's trade. The deductions push China's trade surplus of manufactured goods over $2 trillion. Trump's trade war is a complete failure. According to the WSJ:
China announced the restricted area before the start of the military exercise, which was entirely within the international airspace. It's 100% Japan's fault to intrude into this restricted area and subject itself to China's interdiction.
The US regime is engaged in a relentless economic war against the Europe. Yet utterly incompetent Eurocrats such as Séjourné: "let's prepare for a major conflict between China and the US!"
They have joint venture with Saudi. Saudis have alot of experience with US firms to get things done and Saudis have cheapest energy cost is G-20.. i think with robotics this industrialization will spread out.
Saudi assembled Lucid.
It feels like there is a shift in narrative. They use to complain that Chinese products being “cheap” because of inexpensive labor and non-existent slave labor. Now they are whining about the Yuan is being undervalued despite the fact the price of the Yuan has mostly been stable against the Euro/Dollar for the last decade. Saw people whining about this exact thing on Reddit. They are probably dreaming of Plaza Accord 2.0 where they can create a massive bubble and destroy China economy.
Netflix bid $82b to buy Warner Bros without CNN, but Trump intervened (reportedly, because Netflix had Israel-critical content). Now Paramount is buying it for $108b with CNN included (also, reportedly, because it's CEO is pro-Israel).
No words.. infection is deep
No words.. infection is deep
Not saying they have backdoors. But it's not impossible to backdoor if they want to.
Big Hyperscalers don't buy individual PCIe cards. They buy pre-built servers with GPUs. In that case backdooring is extremely easy. For example all the existing AMD and Intel processors already have a hidden computer, which is effectively a backdoor. It's a complete subsystem with a CPU core, it's own RAM and it's own operating system (Minix in the case of Intel). They operate at a ring beyond the reach of the host OS kernel, has the ability to read all the data that goes through the CPU, has the ability to reach internet and phone home without the knowledge of the host OS.
Even in the case of discrete cards it's not impossible to do nefarious things. It connects to a PCIe port so it could in theory emulate almost any kind of peripheral including input devices and network interfaces.
I didn't know Bangladesh had it this bad. I always thought they were more chilled compared to their western neighbours.