Chinese Video/Computer Games

OppositeDay

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Not the cultural soft power bullshit again. Also what are these mysterious jp and sk games showcasing such 'vulnerabilities'?

Well there's the Elden Ring expansion where one of the central plots is genocide is okay because genocided people sometimes did bad things. Oh, those genocided people also did lion dancing as cultural practices.

Very subtle, very nuanced plot. No wonder Westerners loved it.
 

meedicx

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haha "call of the wolf warriors" yes please.

You joke, but Chinese devs are literally leaving money on the ground by not making this.

It's frustrating to see devs like Yang Bing grinding for 10 years and going bald from stress just to make a flop trying to appeal to Final Fantasy fans. He could spent half the time and energy building "call of the wolf warriors" and seen massive success.

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It's the "Chad vs Virgin" meme, where Chad Chinese mobile developers are rolling in money making slop that appeal to the masses, while the virgin premium single player Chinese dev is burning his passion to make flops that no one plays.
 

sse228

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Literally patriotic Call of Duty and Medal of Honor killing Nazis and Japanese pushed FPS and gaming to mainstream USA. Before that, doom and quake type games were for "devil worshipping school shooters." Honestly, China needs a good "realistic" modern FPS so Chinese kids/adults (and other people of the world) can proudly play as a PLA solider rather than a American infantry saving the world from evil. That is soft power.
That's a really good point. I guess it was unfair of me to have such high expectations from such a nascent area. I'm just worried that it'll fall into the same problem as the Chinese film industry that constantly pumps out uninspired and bland crap, half of which are some variation of a heroic war story or mythical tale. It's still unseen whether the game industry can go beyond mythology/legend and nationalistic war stuff or if it'll follow the same fate. I’m afraid China’s game industry won’t fully grow into something diverse and expressive, but it's probably too early to tell.

It's interesting to bring up Call of Duty. The US could pump out games like that because of their already-existing cultural hegemony and dominance of global entertainment. When a game like Modern Warfare came out, it felt 'normal' to global audiences because of already-existing decades of Hollywood movies where America happens to be the 'main character,' not to mention its actual geopolitical perception within the context of GWOT and the larger postwar rules-based order. That makes a game like BO or MW actually believable. Although China is working hard to cultivate the same image and making real progress, they're still very, very far from achieving what the US did. If you don't ALREADY have the cultural dominance and geopolitical image, making a COD-style game about modern counterterrorism or the Korean War or whatever would be ignored at best and ridiculed at worst, even by domestic Chinese audiences, just like with the movies.
 

sse228

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Well there's the Elden Ring expansion where one of the central plots is genocide is okay because genocided people sometimes did bad things. Oh, those genocided people also did lion dancing as cultural practices.

Very subtle, very nuanced plot. No wonder Westerners loved it.
Are you talking about Shadow of the Erdtree? I'm not exactly sure how you got the interpretation that the DLC is somehow whitewashing genocide?

The idea that the story somehow excuses Marika/Messmer's genocide that they committed against the Hornsent just because they did some morally questionable stuff is a VERY subjective player opinion and definitely not a canon statement from the game itself. I feel like the interpretation is that even victims of oppression like Marika can also be perpetrators of evil and manipulative acts themselves which is basically the same idea as the base game. She's pretty much the villain of the story, but the game deliberately avoids moral binaries. That's literally a textbook case of narrative nuance, so I don't really know what you mean.
 

yungho

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Ace Combat 8 announced. Super excited that this finally got confirmed for releasing next year. This series is how I got into military procurement and ended up on this forum lol. Really hoping for PLAAF jets, but do not have too high hopes. Hoping for the best as the plane list for this series has gotten a bit stale over the years. Maybe even 6th gen though I doubt it.
 

Aniah

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Ace Combat 8 announced. Super excited that this finally got confirmed for releasing next year. This series is how I got into military procurement and ended up on this forum lol. Really hoping for PLAAF jets, but do not have too high hopes. Hoping for the best as the plane list for this series has gotten a bit stale over the years. Maybe even 6th gen though I doubt it.
Don't get your hopes up with the PLAAF jets. They don't have the licensing, and China isn't so receptive to giving it to them either. Especially now with the souring of relationships between China and Japan.

Also, if they do somehow add it, it will piss off one side or the other, no matter what.
- PLAAF jets too good? Paid propaganda.
- PLAAF jets too weak? Western bias.
- Adding either PLAAF 6th gen or USAF 6th gen, but not the other, is going to cause Twitter-level drama.
 
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