Chinese Engine Development

Mekconyov

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These J-10 and J-11 will not be retired soon, as they still need these planes in reserve. Jut 600 new stealth fighters are not enough.

Stealth and non-stealth fighter jets are similar when with in 100-150 km range. Stealth factor in a bit more stealthy but non-stealth jets has edge in load diversity and speed AWA range. Improved versions of J-16 and replacements of J-11/10 are not going away. When U can see them with IRST Naked eye hear their sound U believe them there. Gen 5++ and Gen4.5+++ would be side by side on both sides of war spectrum.
 

qwerty3173

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Stealth and non-stealth fighter jets are similar when with in 100-150 km range. Stealth factor in a bit more stealthy but non-stealth jets has edge in load diversity and speed AWA range. Improved versions of J-16 and replacements of J-11/10 are not going away. When U can see them with IRST Naked eye hear their sound U believe them there. Gen 5++ and Gen4.5+++ would be side by side on both sides of war spectrum.
Practically speaking, even without considering stealth, one always wishes ordnance to be in internal bays rather than external hard-points, as just the air resistance damages speed and fuel efficiency greatly. It's just that current bays are not yet large enough which will be addressed by next-gen aircraft. State of the art GaN radar burns through 5th-gen stealth at around 80km scanning or 160km staring lockon.
 

defenceman

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Hi,
the simple answer for a 4++ plane in the war theatre still viable is F15 EX, though USA
has more stealth then any country of the world but of cource you need load out for bombing
missions & this theory in practical even viable to a country like Israel having stealth still they
are after top notch 4++ from USA
so countries like USA, China and Russia still need 4++ though they might at some stage around
more & more stealth planes but still in need of normal fighters
thank you
 

siegecrossbow

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Practically speaking, even without considering stealth, one always wishes ordnance to be in internal bays rather than external hard-points, as just the air resistance damages speed and fuel efficiency greatly. It's just that current bays are not yet large enough which will be addressed by next-gen aircraft. State of the art GaN radar burns through 5th-gen stealth at around 80km scanning or 160km staring lockon.
Internal carry also improves lifespan of AAMs.
 

Tomboy

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Wow, the AEP500's SFC is 17% lower than the AEP100's.
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That's expected because higher powered engines run more efficient. Useful comparison would be against something similar in output like the T406 which outputs 4500kW and have a SFC of 0.259kg/kWh*hr unspecified cruise or takeoff, though it is a turboshaft.

IMO, AEP500 is probably comparable if not a little bit better than similar western engines, though most of them date back to the 90s considering noone makes cleansheet high power turboprops anymore.


Closest comparison for the AEP100 is GE Catalyst, it's specs claim <300g/kWh*hr, 4000 hour TBO and OPR of 16, though on their claims on SFC is possibly much lower since they claim 17-18 percent more efficient than competitors which is basically the PT-6A68 at 330g/kWh*hr, assuming their claim is true actual SFC might be only 274g which is ridiculously low.
 
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