Type 076 LHD/LHA discussion

mack8

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A quick question, someone said earlier that Sichuan can't be more than 50,000 tons, but considering America is 45,000 tons full and Sichuan is significantly larger (wider), why shouldn't we expect a full figure closer to 55,000 or even 60,000 tons for it?
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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A quick question, someone said earlier that Sichuan can't be more than 50,000 tons, but considering America is 45,000 tons full and Sichuan is significantly larger (wider), why shouldn't we expect a full figure closer to 55,000 or even 60,000 tons for it?

Because that's what the official announcement said. And this should not be a repeat of ”8万余2万“ (80000-ton with extra 20000-ton displacement) nonsense from that Fujian instance.


Mind you that while the Sichuan is larger than America, she isn't that massive.

On top of that, much of that extra "size" you see on Sichuan are actually due to the much wider flight deck that accounts for U(C)AVs with large wingspans (for instance, GJ-21's wingspan is ~14 meters, whereas WZ-10's wingspan can reach 20 meters). This feature is absent on the America LHAs because they only operate F-35Bs with a wingspan of 11 meters at most.

And just so you know, 60000-tons is about the same category as the displacements of the STOBAR twins. Which is nonsensical given their physical size differences.

Edit: I just recalled that it was you who asked the exact same question in this very thread not even 3 days ago. Maybe you should take a look back?
 
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mack8

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Because that's what the official announcement said. And this should not be a repeat of ”8万余2万“ (80000-ton with extra 20000-ton displacement) nonsense from that Fujian instance here.


Also, mind you that 60000-tons is about the same as the displacement of the STOBAR twins. Which is nonsensical given their physical size differences.

Edit: I just recalled that it was you who asked the exact same question in this very thread not even 3 days ago. Maybe you should take a look back?
IIrc what i said was something like it was remarcable the speed with which they went from keel laying to trials for a 60,000 tons ship, and it was perhaps yourself who said that my guesstimate for displacement is too high.

Also i would think the announcement might have referred to standard displacement, as "over 40,000 tons" looks way too little for full load.

At any rate, regardless of the few thousands tons we quibble over, Sichuan is the biggest, most impressive ship of it's type (LHA) ever built, so there is that.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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IIrc what i said was something like it was remarcable the speed with which they went from keel laying to trials for a 60,000 tons ship, and it was perhaps yourself who said that my guesstimate for displacement is too high.
Also i would think the announcement might have referred to standard displacement, as "over 40,000 tons" looks way too little for full load.

I've made some additions to my original post, so do read that first.

076 has deck overhang which adds some weight but to really estimate displacement one would have to find/measure waterline length and beam of both ships.

Probably 250 meters long x 36 meters wide at waterline for Sichuan's case, IIRC.
 
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para80

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I've made some additions to my original post, so do read that first.



Probably 250 meters long x 36 meters wide at waterline for Sichuan's case, IIRC.
My stab in the dark estimate is 45,000 tons full load displacement, which I use in relevant writing. Based on the dimensions (250 metres or a little more length and 45 metres beam across the flight deck). While the official "more than 40,000 tons" statement of course in theory would include 150,000 tons, I dont see why official channels would massively understate displacement. We're not living in Washington or London Naval treaty times.
 
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