Type 076 LHD/LHA discussion

[Tomboy]

Two of the UAVs are probably GJ-21 and WZ-10, the third one is possibly this

 

[mack8]

That instantly reminds me of the video sighting of what we thought was some kind of UCAV some months ago.

 

[Volpler11]

Someone should make a diagram highlighting all the point defense systems using the new photos.

 

[tphuang]

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076型两栖攻击舰四川舰，虽然被称之为两栖攻击舰，但是搭载了一条电磁弹射器，3条阻拦索。

虽然目前多数人认为其将搭载无人舰载机，但是其电磁弹射器、飞行甲板长度、宽度等参数可以满足有人舰载战斗机甚至固定翼预警机的起降，未来有着极大的可能搭载一定数量的有人作战飞机。

未来作战中，四川舰可以搭载两栖作战兵力，并通过攻击11等隐身战机的舰载版，事先对打击目标的远距离侦察、监视或直接打击，使用直升机登陆艇等对人员和装备进行立体投送。

也可以在海战中与航母配合，为航母提供反潜保障，或是与驱逐舰等配合，充当轻型航母，由其搭载的舰载战斗机为驱逐舰等提供空中优势，甚至可以作为护航航母，执行为商船船队或者补给舰队等护航任务。

so the current setup is sufficient for taking off and landing with manned fixed wing aircraft. I don't think they have any need to try that yet, since GJ-21s on its is already a lot of fire power. I'd be curious how many GJ-21s it can carry on deck. Could they do something like 14 GJ-21s + 6 Z-18/20s for regular operations?

 

[Kejora]

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so the current setup is sufficient for taking off and landing with manned fixed wing aircraft. I don't think they have any need to try that yet, since GJ-21s on its is already a lot of fire power. I'd be curious how many GJ-21s it can carry on deck. Could they do something like 14 GJ-21s + 6 Z-18/20s for regular operations?

Even if it not for regular operation, it should be able to refuel and rearm J-15 and J-35 during sorties.

 

[Tomboy]

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Speculation on the types of fixed wing UAV onboard

 

[GTI]

That instantly reminds me of the video sighting of what we thought was some kind of UCAV some months ago.

You mean the one flying over Shenyang that had some slight JH-XX vibes to it (cos of the potential ruddervators which would be tail planes if this is related), but we couldn’t tell the size of it?

 

[tphuang]

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Speculation on the types of fixed wing UAV onboard

interesting, so they are getting sort of a fighter jet-ish UCAV on there. Could be something that acts as MUMT with J-35 if a Type 076 is operating with CV-18.

 

[AsuraGodFiend]

interesting, so they are getting sort of a fighter jet-ish UCAV on there. Could be something that acts as MUMT with J-35 if a Type 076 is operating with CV-18.

What about those j10c size drones at the parade

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

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Speculation on the types of fixed wing UAV onboard

I'll bring up another post by @伏尔戈星图 on Weibo as a sum-up.

611 常规布局无人机
601 攻击21
611 长航时舰载机

611th Institute (i.e. Chengdu) - Conventional configuration UAV
601th Institute (i.e. Shenyang) - GJ-21
611th Institute (i.e. Chengdu) - Long endurance UAV (Most likely to be carrier-based variant of WZ-10)

In addition to the illustration posted by @Tomboy at the top of this page:


Yes, this looks very well like a loyal wingman-type UCAV that could be capable of not just conducting A2G missions, but perhaps even A2A missions against enemy attack/transport helicopters and UAVs. However, I wouldn't expect it to go largely toe-to-toe against proper enemy fighters like what the UADF-A, UADF-B and UADF-F are capable of.

Perhaps we should denote this UCAV as UADF-GT, with G that comes after the UADF-F, and the T = Catapult-launch for ease of discussion?

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In the meantime, here could be what the 076 LHD's fixed-wing air wing looks like:
Carrier-based variant of WZ-10: ISTAR and EW
GJ-21: A2G
UADF-GT: (Mainly) A2A and (secondary) A2G

Though, it might be preferable if the PLAN could also add a carrier-based variant of Wing Loong-X for ASW, given the expected persistent threat of submarines and UUVs against amphibious assault fleets...