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It's really odd. The why China couldn't invent chatgpt article came out in Feb 2023. It's less than 3 years ago. And yet it aged so badly in such a short period of time. If you look at the current benchmark rankings, it's pretty much accepted at this point that China llms are on a very similar level to US ones despite being no one knowing about it not that long ago. Europe had no such limitation and yet I think the only one relevant right now is Mistral.
Things just are moving too fast for some people's minds.
Things just are moving too fast for some people's minds.
just checked it. asked a few questions and gave my views on the ukraine war. I got the impression that I was chatting with Mr. Gao, the guy who used to be chairman Deng's translator. Its responses reflect tacitly anti-west views. for example, it responded "A single nuclear detonation on a NATO city would shatter the alliance’s unity overnight" and. I am not saying it's dumb, but it's heavily moderated when it comes to political issues. Grok was much better. Also, it's not up to date unlike Grok and chatgpt.Qwen 3 Max thinking online
I think it will only be restricted/moderated on china's political issues for obvious reasons. However for every country else it would be neutral and rational.
those guy talking about this shit at the time weren't actually working on LLM.
BAT (Baidu, Alibaba, Tencent), especially Baidu, had been conducting LLM research for decade, some of today's renowned AI experts used to work in Baidu's labs.
The reason they didn't persist was that the industry was generally pessimistic about LLM at the time. OpenAI in its early days was like Deepseek, able to advance technology without considering revenue. But these large companies needed to face the questions of "how much money will this require, and how to monetize it." These companies are not lacking in talent and equipment; once OpenAI provides certainty, they will reinvest. Although Baidu, like Meta, is rapidly falling behind in the competition.
As for Europe, their problem is the lack of large domestic internet companies; they have lost their digital sovereignty. Any emerging AI company like DeepMind will quickly acquired by a major American corporation; now even Mistral is considered an American company.
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That's the thing about China current scene. Even if Baidu lags behind, there are just so many firms now with their own quality models. Its not just a one firm got lucky thing.
How? They were acquired by US company/investors ?
I tried it too, not as good as Gemini 2.5 Pro Deep Think
Output is very fast, but quality seem not as good as the Qwen3 235B think, let alone Gemini 2.5 Pro. A bit disappointed
