China's Space Program Thread II

[by78]

Another international partner has committed to piggyback a payload on the Chang'e-7 mission. This partner is a certain

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All the international payloads for the Chang'e-7 mission have been delivered. They will be split among the orbiter and the lander.

Orbiter payloads:
– A hyperspectral imager developed by Egypt and Bahrain.
– A radiation spectrometer for measuring earth's radiation from the moon, developed by Switzerland.
– A space weather monitor developed by Thailand.

Lander payloads:
– A laser corner reflector array developed by Italy.
– A lunar dust and electric field detector developed by Russia.
– A telescope developed by the International Lunar Observatory Association.

 

[tamsen_ikard]

All the international payloads for the Chang'e-7 mission have been delivered. They will be split among the orbiter and the lander.

Orbiter payloads:
– A hyperspectral imager developed by Egypt and Bahrain.
– A radiation spectrometer for measuring earth's radiation from the moon, developed by Switzerland.
– A space weather monitor developed by Thailand.

Lander payloads:
– A laser corner reflector array developed by Italy.
– A lunar dust and electric field detector developed by Russia.
– A telescope developed by the International Lunar Observatory Association.

Chang'e 7 and 8 seems like aimless missions at this point. After achieving both unmanned landing, rover and sample return on both sides of the moon. There isn't much to do unmanned anymore. So, these two missions do not have a definitive purpose. They seem to be just carrying payloads for various countries.

 

[taxiya]

Chang'e 7 and 8 seems like aimless missions at this point. After achieving both unmanned landing, rover and sample return on both sides of the moon. There isn't much to do unmanned anymore. So, these two missions do not have a definitive purpose. They seem to be just carrying payloads for various countries.

It is you being clueless.

7 and 8 are to find the proper location for moon base. Moon is very large object, without early reconnaissance and site survey you are going to land at middle of nowhere without prosperity of finding water, mineral, bad lighting condition etc.

 

[tamsen_ikard]

It is you being clueless.

7 and 8 are to find the proper location for moon base. Moon is very large object, without early reconnaissance and site survey you are going to land at middle of nowhere without prosperity of finding water, mineral, bad lighting condition etc.

If they are going to do prospecting, then should have done a more complex mission like deploying multiple smaller droplets of ground prospector to be able to cover a large area. Current mission payloads seem a bit less ambitious compared to recent Chinese moon missions. Doing a ground prospecting in one location isn't going to be that effective. If they don't find anything in that spot, its not like they can move 100s of miles to another location and try again.

 

[iewgnem]

Chang'e 7 and 8 seems like aimless missions at this point. After achieving both unmanned landing, rover and sample return on both sides of the moon. There isn't much to do unmanned anymore. So, these two missions do not have a definitive purpose. They seem to be just carrying payloads for various countries.

CE-8's ISRU mission is the most consequential lunar mission of the last 50 years and the most critical part of not just China's lunar missions but humanity's long term expansion into the universe.

 

[jli88]

If they are going to do prospecting, then should have done a more complex mission like deploying multiple smaller droplets of ground prospector to be able to cover a large area. Current mission payloads seem a bit less ambitious compared to recent Chinese moon missions. Doing a ground prospecting in one location isn't going to be that effective. If they don't find anything in that spot, its not like they can move 100s of miles to another location and try again.

It's not just prospecting, they are doing dry runs for trying out in-situ resource utilization. Which means using lunar soil to create bricks and other experiments on habitation.

 

[by78]

Chang'e 7 and 8 seems like aimless missions at this point. After achieving both unmanned landing, rover and sample return on both sides of the moon. There isn't much to do unmanned anymore. So, these two missions do not have a definitive purpose. They seem to be just carrying payloads for various countries.

I wonder if anyone besides me has ever told you that you talk too much. If not, let me repeat for emphasis: you talk too much, even though quite frequently you don't seem to know what you're talking about. You also seem fond of making declarations and generalized statements that are often laughable, outlandish, strange, or patently false, as if you were simply talking for the sake of talking, because you have no operational control over your mouth to prevent you from rushing to express whatever fatuous idea that pops into your mind, despite the idea being contradicted by overwhelming prior evidence. You should really focus on getting an advanced degree in, say, political science/international relations or in sociology or comparative studies, as those are especially suitable for people with talk-addicted personality or diagnosed with logorrhea, and they don't require coherence of mind or much intellectual ability. I think the vast majority of us would welcome that because it would mean less participation from you and a markedly improved forum.

 

[tamsen_ikard]

I wonder if anyone besides me has ever told you that you talk too much. If not, let me repeat for emphasis: you talk too much, even though quite frequently you don't seem to know what you're talking about. You also seem fond of making declarations and generalized statements that are often laughable, outlandish, strange, or patently false, as if you were simply talking for the sake of talking, because you have no operational control over your mouth to prevent you from rushing to express whatever fatuous idea that pops into your mind, despite the idea being contradicted by overwhelming prior evidence. You should really focus on getting an advanced degree in, say, political science/international relations or in sociology or comparative studies, as those are especially suitable for people with talk-addicted personality or diagnosed with logorrhea, and they don't require coherence of mind or much intellectual ability. I think the vast majority of us would welcome that because it would mean less participation from you and a markedly improved forum.

This is a discussion forum where people present their thoughts and opinions. There will be back and forth. Unlike many, I am not afraid to go against the flow and present opinions that other people here do not like, especially I have no problem criticizing China for being timid, feeble or outright cowardly sometimes. I have no problem criticizing Chinese actions or ideas that I think are ineffective or pointless.

I bring opinions that prevent this forum from becoming an echo chamber and challenge notions that are taken for granted without any thought.

I don't see you bring any interesting opinions. All I see you do is posting pictures. Even an automated script can do what you do. You wrote more words writing a personal attack against me than 99% of your posts. Yeah, thanks for your valuable contributions.

 

[by78]

Unlike many, I am not afraid to go against the flow and present opinions that other people here do not like.

"Unlike many, I am not afraid to go against the flow and present uninformed opinions that other people here do not like".

There, fixed it for you.

I bring opinions that prevent this forum from becoming an echo chamber and challenge notions that are taken for granted without any thought.

I didn't know you were so community service oriented. Online activist Narcissist much?

I don't see you bring any interesting opinions.

It's only natural that you don't see me bring 'interesting' opinions. What you think is interesting often simply isn't. Unlike you, I have a filter: I think before I post, and I actually read the forum and do research before I ask questions or express an opinion.

All I see you do is posting pictures. Even an automated script can do what you do. You wrote more words writing a personal attack against me than 99% of your posts. Yeah, thanks for your valuable contributions.

A picture speaks a thousand words, but not to those who are quite possibly visually impaired. All I see you do is yaking, which even a dumb spam bot can do.

You wrote more words writing a personal attack against me than 99% of your posts. Yeah, thanks for your valuable contributions.

Did I really personally attack you? Unlike you, I am not afraid to go against your flow and present opinions that you do not like, especially I have no problem criticizing someone who is laughably uninformed and a hyperactive nuisance poster with a demonstrable lack of operational control over his mouth. So yeah, please stop your 'contributions', because they add little to no value and quite often lower the quality of this forum like a spam bot.

 

[tamsen_ikard]

"Unlike many, I am not afraid to go against the flow and present uninformed opinions that other people here do not like".

There, fixed it for you.



I didn't know you were so community service oriented. Online activist Narcissist much?



It's only natural that you don't see me bring 'interesting' opinions. What you think is interesting often simply isn't. Unlike you, I have a filter: I think before I post, and I actually read the forum and do research before I ask questions or express an opinion.



A picture speaks a thousand words, but not to those who are quite possibly visually impaired. All I see you do is yaking, which even a dumb spam bot can do.



Did I really personally attack you? Unlike you, I am not afraid to go against your flow and present opinions that you do not like, especially I have no problem criticizing someone who is laughably uninformed and a hyperactive nuisance poster with a demonstrable lack of operational control over his mouth. So yeah, please stop your 'contributions', because they add little to no value and quite often lower the quality of this forum like a spam bot.

I just made 2000 post in the last 5 years since joining the forum. I barely make a few post per week. You made 28 thousand posts in 11 years. So, who is the hyperactive one? Looks like you made an "uninformed" opinion

I am noticing that you are targeting me and making unprovoked personal attacks on me repeatedly. Moreover, its not like these personal attacks are coming after you and I had a debate on particular topic which escalated into personal attacks. No. You find a place where I post something and then you do personal attack without even refuting any of the points I made.

This is clearly a case of online bullying. You are deliberately targetting me and trying to intimidate and bully me.

Guess what, I'm not afraid of bullies like you. You are only showing your own ugly nature by acting like a bully. You are getting exposed.

In the future, DO NOT try to do unprovoked personal attacks. You are welcome to debate and refute any point I make with actual relevant opinions or facts. I will happily debate you. Now please get back to topic or shut down from this topic. Thanks