About India and China, when you interact with citizens from both countries, the impression you get is that it‘s the orher way around. Chinese suck up to northern people AKA whites and barely interact with any one from the south while Indians don‘t for white approval so much. Whites however don‘t hold Chinese in the same regard and are not very keen to interact with them. The result is that Chinese almost always stick to themselves and barely interact with anyone outside of their bubble while Indians form diverse friend groupd. You literally see this in every western country. So I can imagine who would have more influence over the global south if both were equally wealthy. We would have to wait until India becomes somewhat wealthy to see the result.
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The peaceful rise of China must include the reunification of Taiwan on China's own terms. This is what that great man and all his followers have been saying on and off the record.So now you want to be like the US and Soviets? Whatever happened to peaceful rise? Was this great man wrong?
I think most are missing my point, but it's all good. Emotions can do that.
China will leave Japan alone if the latter stays out of the process of the reunification. If Japan does stick its tiny nose in, it will not be pretty for the Japanese politicians and their supporters. Whether or not the monarchy will be punished will depend on if they are supportive of the intervention or not.
AssassinsMace
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I don't know if this is accurately depicted but generally ideological, in this case religious, people aren't going to assimilate well in societies that aren't their own. Also didn't Japan letting Indians into their country happen recently? If this is real then I can understand why get so much hate being in someone else country. But then they're the ones that brag about being being a democracy...
Are you living in another dimension? I'm curious what kind of information cocoon you live in?
Just my personal experience. I am neither Indian nor Chinese. Anyone here from a third party can also chime in and offer a different perspective.
the irony is not lost upon me that all these other global south comments saying like "im so glad chinas going to take the lead, they'll never bully us like the united states" have simply never heard the chinese talking candidly amongst themselves.
AssassinsMace
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Jane Goodall just died and of course all the accolades from the West. But she was a typical Western leftist supremacist who believed Westerners only bring good to savage parts of the world. When China was making a presence in Africa, Jane Goodall complained. She was one of those return to Eden fantasy Westerners. She was okay with Westerners in Africa but not okay for Chinese. Westerners have that utopia fantasy to keep Africa primitive and the only oasis of civility in the desert were Westerners. That's how Westerners dream for the world as their playground.
The main problem is that your understanding of the world is so idiosyncratic.
India frequently visits the White House to lick the US president's boots, and flatters Israel with all sorts of flattery. It particularly blocked the BRICS's condemnation of Israel during the Israeli bombing of Iran, and boasts of its status as a G7 observer country. And so on and so forth. And these are just diplomatic actions.
You could also ask India's neighboring countries what they think of their neighbor.
Honestly, your understanding is so out of touch with reality that I don't know how to explain to you the profound impact your remarks have had on my worldview.
History has a long list of no longer existent groups who mistakes China being peaceful for China being pacifist. China doesn't attack first but China also never forgive. Revenge no matter how long the wait is held as core principle in Chinese culture, and when China takes revenge it tend to be total and merciless.So now you want to be like the US and Soviets? Whatever happened to peaceful rise? Was this great man wrong?
I think most are missing my point, but it's all good. Emotions can do that.
See what China's doing to western industry for a small example.
Is China unwilling to engage in candid communication, or are some people deliberately blocking their ears and refusing to listen?
It's ridiculous that some developing countries still think they can choose who to cooperate with.
To put it bluntly, a beggar is being picky about his food!